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Post by iforgotpassword »

jen729w wrote: post #254
apendleton wrote: post #210

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Yeah, my experience is related, in that it seems to think "lamp" and "lights" are synonyms, so I have a lamp in my living room, but "turn off the living room lamp" turns off all the lights in the living room, not just the light called "living room lamp." It's like, at this intermediate level of intelligence that's particularly annoying: too smart to just literally use the names I assigned, but not smart enough to act…

Siri (HomePod) was getting confused with my “turn everything off” incantation, so I’ve changed the name of the ‘scene’ and now when we leave the house we instruct her to “PUT THAT COFFEE DOWN”. Because coffee is for closers.

I had to laugh out loud. I suddenly envisioned a future where we slowly developed an arsenal of such workarounds for the flawed automation creeping into every aspect of private and public life, where it reached a point where people just accepted that that's the way things are done. My grandchildren naturally yell "put that coffee down" when leaving the house, because that's just how you turn off everything. Sure there must be some ancient reason why it's exactly that phrase, but who cares? That's how smart people decided AI is supposed to work.

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Post by _underfl0w_ »

throwaway889900 wrote: post #117
woodgrainz wrote: post #68

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For those uninitiated, PEBKAC = problem exists between keyboard and chair, aka user error.

Also: ID10T error, Layer 8 issue, etc.

The OSI reference "Layer 8 issue" is a new one to me. That's a good one!

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Post by free2OSS »

untog wrote: post #27
renewiltord wrote: post #5

My fucking Google Home can't even figure out how to play the auto playlist "My Likes" on YouTube Music. Previously, I could say "Play my Thumbs Up" and it could do so on Google Play Music. It keeps playing a song called "My Likes". Jesus fucking Christ, Google. If I say "Play my My Likes playlist" something random happens. Do these guys even use their product? I'm just glad this album didn't come out before the force…

It feels like a trope to even say it but it amazes me how badly Google have handled the transition from Google Play Music to YT Music. For me YT Music is an inferior experience in every single way.

People talk about breaking up FAANG and I'm thinking they are going to self implode on themselves.

Maybe not Apple because their fanatics will apologize for any wrong doing.

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Post by mcguire »

renewiltord wrote: post #5

My fucking Google Home can't even figure out how to play the auto playlist "My Likes" on YouTube Music. Previously, I could say "Play my Thumbs Up" and it could do so on Google Play Music. It keeps playing a song called "My Likes". Jesus fucking Christ, Google. If I say "Play my My Likes playlist" something random happens. Do these guys even use their product? I'm just glad this album didn't come out before the force…

About 16 years ago, I worked in the IBM Solutions Experience Lab (with the smart kitchen and living room and stuff). One thing I did was to set up the "smart car" simulator, which connected with IBM's cloud stuff at the time, including their voice recognition. I'm testing this diddly-bob and say, "Turn on headlights." The simulacar honks its horn. Loudly.

Unfortunately, there was a tour going through the lab at the time. Some VPs from some company got to watch me honk the horn and then bang my head against the desk.

In the last 16 years, the state of the art has not advanced, as far as recognizing my speech goes. It still don't work.

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Post by inetknght »

hadlock wrote: post #159
gorkish wrote: post #36

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This is my experience with any 'smart assistant' product that is or ever has been. It's always frustrating but never particularly hard to find the special incantation that will invoke it to do the thing that you want it to. Overall though it's simply not worth the effort which is probably why I end up using these overwhelmingly complex devices only for their most mundane functions like timers and getting the weather.…

My issue is that I found out the special incantations two years ago, and then they changed (I presume) something about the core language processing logic, and now none of that works. For example I have Philips Hue lights behind the TV/Screen on my living room wall, and I use their "color loop" behind the screen when watching movies etc. The problem is that "TV", "Television" and "Screen" are semi-protected words, so…

I also have Philips Hue.

I used to be able to ask Siri: "Hey Siri, please set the lights to green." Then she would obediently set all of the lights to green. Nice, that's my favorite!

Then a few months ago some update was pushed (iOS? Apple Home app? Philips Hue app? Philips Hue Basestation OS? No idea) and now that exact phrase (which has worked for two years) suddenly elicits a response: "OK, which room?" -- followed by a listing of the rooms in which I have devices and a catch-all "Everywhere".

So now I've had to change my incantation: "Hey Siri, please set all of my lights to green."

I'm just waiting for her to start asking "Do you want Lime Green, Aqua Green, or Vomit Green?". Or worse, maybe she'll just give up and say "OK, here's a list of Google results for Green Lights." Maybe even throw a captcha in there asking me to select the green lights at intersections, just for good measure.

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Post by iforgotpassword »

Causality1 wrote: post #188
renewiltord wrote: post #37

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That's the worst thing. It used to work well for me.

Yep. Google has been getting progressively worse at recognizing my words over the past two years. It's also started randomly capitalizing words that aren't proper nouns and seemingly has a blacklist of words that it clearly recognizes as speech but refuses to type such as "o'clock".

"Take a look boss, I made the AI better yet again! After the last change, telemetry shows our users are talking even longer to the assistant each time they use it. Engagement is up, they seem to love interacting with it."

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Post by dredmorbius »

jjulius wrote: post #79
joejohnson wrote: post #70

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what would the correct command be on windows?

Instead of "C:\ del .mp3", it should be "del C:\ .mp3". Edit: lol, I didn't know that we could format text with asterisks on HN. There should be an asterisk before each ".mp3", but as you can see, if I put them in it just italicizes the text in between them.

Two leading spaces is verbatim (code/literal) text:

  C:\ del *.mp3
Should be:

  del C:\ *.mp3
https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc

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Post by geek_at »

echelon wrote: post #56

YouTube Music is so bad. Comically bad. I had an amazing indie music discovery service in Google Play Music. I found so many fantastic underplayed artists, and it helped me explore all the small music venues in my city. I've got a wall full of signed albums from artists I discovered with Google Play Music. YouTube music recommends Britney Spears . It's so awfully wrong about my tastes. It also randomly inserts YouTub…

Had similar experiences. A funny bug was when I pressed the next button too fast for some reason my playlist was switched out with most popular (I guess). It was only Britney Spears and Justin Bieber.

Totally agree on the playlists too. I recently liked a video on youtube where a dude put guitar strings in his piano and for some reason yt music put that in my liked music playlist. It doesn't even contain actual music, just explanations of what he's doing

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Post by free2OSS »

silentsea90 wrote: post #48
untog wrote: post #27

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It feels like a trope to even say it but it amazes me how badly Google have handled the transition from Google Play Music to YT Music. For me YT Music is an inferior experience in every single way.

I dislike it too, but I can't put a finger on why YTMusic sucks compared to Google Play music. Mind sharing your reasons?

They moved my favorite songs to one of my THREE youtube profiles.

They couldn't move it to my main because it was legacy, but that was where I had youtube premium/red whatever. So then I needed to switch between accounts. Not fun while you are driving.

Oh then they stopped premium so I started hearing ads. Not what I want when I'm trying to calm my screaming kid in the car. Oh, and I need to keep my phone screen on.

Many of the songs aren't the same as on Google play.

Google seems to be moving toward search/email/YouTube. With few other products. Probably good, they can't handle it.

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Post by kevincox »

remir wrote: post #255
echelon wrote: post #56

YouTube Music is so bad. Comically bad. I had an amazing indie music discovery service in Google Play Music. I found so many fantastic underplayed artists, and it helped me explore all the small music venues in my city. I've got a wall full of signed albums from artists I discovered with Google Play Music. YouTube music recommends Britney Spears . It's so awfully wrong about my tastes. It also randomly inserts YouTub…

Viewed differently: it is ultimately a good thing that Youtube Music is bad, because otherwise, that would be another thing dominated by Google. It's like people lamenting how sad it is that Windows mobile failed. Well, why would you want Microsoft to dominate both desktop and mobile market? Seems like a scary scenario. In this perspective, I can appreciate how clueless Google can be sometimes. It's not a bug, it's a…

Yeah, but I would like to have a good music product. I'm currently between options because nothing works for me. I was a happy Google Play Music subscriber for years. All they had to to was change the colour scheme and swap the backend and I would have been a happy camper. Now I have canceled my subscription and don't know what to use.

At the end of the day music isn't critical to me, so I don't really care if Google dominates it. If I had to switch I'm not too worried about being locked into something.

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