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I've had moderate luck with podcasts; I use Google's podcast app, and want voice commands when driving. But it only works 50-70% of the time, and only with some of the podcasts.

I'd much rather just have the ability to set trigger words that execute macros. Really, there are only a few of them that i need regularly.

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Children are really really smart—just not yet as smart as adults.

I think children are probably at least as smart as adults, but are missing assumed context on almost everything. Maybe the same is the real problem with smart assistance?

In that case maybe the assistants should be more like children and like ask questions?

Relatedly, I wonder if these assistants “filter bubble” you like search does. Like, learning what types of things you are looking for and grouping you with other similar people.

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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post #27

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It feels like a trope to even say it but it amazes me how badly Google have handled the transition from Google Play Music to YT Music. For me YT Music is an inferior experience in every single way.

I dislike it too, but I can't put a finger on why YTMusic sucks compared to Google Play music. Mind sharing your reasons?

One major annoyance for me: No shuffle playlist option in the Android Auto interface, you have to pick up your phone and do it from there.

Also, the shuffle button only shuffles the current songs in queue, not the playlist your currently listening too like Spotify and GP Music do.

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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My fucking Google Home can't even figure out how to play the auto playlist "My Likes" on YouTube Music. Previously, I could say "Play my Thumbs Up" and it could do so on Google Play Music. It keeps playing a song called "My Likes". Jesus fucking Christ, Google. If I say "Play my My Likes playlist" something random happens. Do these guys even use their product? I'm just glad this album didn't come out before the force…

It keeps playing a song called "My Likes" Meanwhile, here in Siri Land... Me: Hey, Siri, add "tomatoes" to my Groceries list. Siri: OK, Reapreducer. Which list should I add it to? Me: Groceries. Siri: OK, Reapreducer. Which list should I add it to? Me: Groceries. Siri: OK, Reapreducer. Which list should I add it to? Me: Groceries. Siri: OK, Reapreducer. Which list should I add it to? Me: Groceries. Siri: OK, Reapredu…

I can't understand why I should talk to any of my devices as long as they are as idiotic as they are now and like you describe above doesn't have the slightest idea about how to handle context.

That said Siri feels at least 100 times smarter than Google assistant to me, the below are actual (if somewhat anonymized) examples:

- Google suggestions when I look at the phone at 5am in the morning: "text random friend of a friend that I answered a question for over Telegram" or "call customers project manager". See https://erik.itland.no/tag:aifails for screenshots and more examples. In the years I had access to the future it maybe helped me twice by pointing out it was time to leave for an appointment.

- Siri suggestions are mostly mundane (more or less predictably tells me when to leave for appointments, kids soccer and hockey training etc, suggests picking up kids at kindergarden - although not consistently, suggests sending messages to my wife over our preferred messaging solution, tweeting, or if I drive 5 minutes down to the shopping center: that I should drive home the way I always do etc) but I have never caught it suggesting outright idiotic things like Google, and once this weekend it even suggested something semi-smart (a text message to my wife that was surprisingly close to one I could have written myself to tell her I was on my way home, including one of my rather unusual abbreviations and with good timing :-)

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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post #56

YouTube Music is so bad. Comically bad. I had an amazing indie music discovery service in Google Play Music. I found so many fantastic underplayed artists, and it helped me explore all the small music venues in my city. I've got a wall full of signed albums from artists I discovered with Google Play Music. YouTube music recommends Britney Spears . It's so awfully wrong about my tastes. It also randomly inserts YouTub…

Dude just stop giving Google the benefit of the doubt and switch to Spotify. Google has proven time and time again that their priorities lie within their advertising and their search engine - Everything else is a monetized side project.

I've tried Spotify, its great but their inability to upload your own music is a gamebreaker for me, since I listen to a decent amount of indie and obscure bands and songs

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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post #56

YouTube Music is so bad. Comically bad. I had an amazing indie music discovery service in Google Play Music. I found so many fantastic underplayed artists, and it helped me explore all the small music venues in my city. I've got a wall full of signed albums from artists I discovered with Google Play Music. YouTube music recommends Britney Spears . It's so awfully wrong about my tastes. It also randomly inserts YouTub…

> YouTube music recommends Britney Spears. It's so awfully wrong about my tastes. Just dislike these songs/videos. At first all I did was play playlists I already had in YT since the 'my mix' (now "my supermix") playlist had random songs I listened to 5 years ago, but after about a week of using the 'my mix' and disliking songs, I started getting a bunch of great songs from artists that I otherwise had no idea about.

The problem is, OP already did this. So did I. How much in-fighting is there at google that they couldn't just port over the data?

Right now I'm pissed that Google tv doesn't have a working account switcher. If my wife watches music videos it retrains my YouTube music.

Also, youtube music sucks when it comes to spotty connections and file management. I have fiber at work and home, unmetered 4g, and 100gig free space on my phone. Why doesn't it just download everything? I loose service for hours on end and I come to find that it has either not saved any songs or it has deleted everything it can. Today I started an album and then hit a dead spot, and it had deleted all the songs before the track I was on, and not qeued up the rest of the album. Google music had a setting where you could tell it to allocate gigs of space and keep it full. This push to simplify user experiences is why I avoid apple, and I hate seeing it creep into google.

https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/11/30/google-tv-is-perfec...

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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post #61

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Alexa is mostly good with timers/alarms, but occasionally will swap 15/50 or 8/80. If you miss hearing the distinction in the confirmation, you'll miss the scheduled event Edit: They also have distinct classification of alarm/timers. You can use either word to create one but checking what you've set or trying to cancel will result in 'no timers/alarms' set if your request doesn't match their system design.

Siri does that too. For some reason its always 14/40 for me. The number of times I've gotten shockingly early timers for the drier...

Better than shockingly late timers for the cookies?

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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My fucking Google Home can't even figure out how to play the auto playlist "My Likes" on YouTube Music. Previously, I could say "Play my Thumbs Up" and it could do so on Google Play Music. It keeps playing a song called "My Likes". Jesus fucking Christ, Google. If I say "Play my My Likes playlist" something random happens. Do these guys even use their product? I'm just glad this album didn't come out before the force…

I always enjoy Alexa making a comment out of the blue because some word in a conversation sounded a lot like "Alexa", apparently.

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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post #36

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This is my experience with any 'smart assistant' product that is or ever has been. It's always frustrating but never particularly hard to find the special incantation that will invoke it to do the thing that you want it to. Overall though it's simply not worth the effort which is probably why I end up using these overwhelmingly complex devices only for their most mundane functions like timers and getting the weather.…

My issue is that I found out the special incantations two years ago, and then they changed (I presume) something about the core language processing logic, and now none of that works. For example I have Philips Hue lights behind the TV/Screen on my living room wall, and I use their "color loop" behind the screen when watching movies etc. The problem is that "TV", "Television" and "Screen" are semi-protected words, so…

Yeah, my experience is related, in that it seems to think "lamp" and "lights" are synonyms, so I have a lamp in my living room, but "turn off the living room lamp" turns off all the lights in the living room, not just the light called "living room lamp." It's like, at this intermediate level of intelligence that's particularly annoying: too smart to just literally use the names I assigned, but not smart enough to actually intelligently apply synonyms or fuzzy matching. Worst of all possible worlds.
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