Good luck my beta-tester friends across the pond.
Pfizer Covid vaccine approved for use next week in UK
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#522In terms of rollout. UK is the ideal country to be the first: 1. Heavily impacted by Covid-19. 2. Centralised health care system makes it easier to compare results and efficiency. E.g. it's UK which figured out that dexamethasone is efficient against Covid https://www.who.int/news/item/16-06-2020-who-welcomes-prelim... 3. Developed country with great logistics.
4. Is an island that can be cut off incase of a zombie apocalypse...
Great with comments like this the site is now basically worthless reddit
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#523Earlier quoted context omitted.
> small percentage If I carried the decimal correctly, 5 thousand out of 58 million is less than 1% of 1%.
I'm sure that will make those 5,000 who have trouble walking or smiling feel so much better.
Worth noting that COVID-19 probably triggers GBS in some people (like many infections). So maybe the vaccine triggers GBS in rare cases, but the disease appears to also sometimes cause long term problems (neurological and otherwise).
1976 was potentially problematic because there was a massive immunization program because of fears of a pandemic, but H1N1 was not actually spreading.
2020 is obviously a different story. The pandemic is here.
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#524Where I live all the hospitals are shut down with the lights off and all my neighbors that were nurses got laid off moved away who's going to administer these if there's no one in the hospital
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#525Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're going to have to provide sources for this lot. When we're talking about corruption we're talking about things like the no-bid contract to Platform-14 for PPE. Or the "Seaborne Freight" incident. Tiny firms and shell companies are "an organisation which had no economies of scale, nor any demonstrated expertise in logistics in a competitive environment". DHL at least has a track record of large scale delivery. >…
Just Google it, it's not hard. One of the first few results for [nhs using only public labs for pcr tests april] is this: https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-four-issues-that-hav... "Part of the reason the UK has had difficulty in meeting the 100,000 tests daily goal was because of its focus on centralised testing centres. In contrast to the robust and wide-reaching testing programmes in Germany and South Korea,…
> the UK government initially decided
So, not an NHS decision but a political decision by the relevant cabinet minister? That changes the answer. It's important to distinguish between decisions made by "the NHS" (to the extent that this isn't just individual trusts, or NICE, or whatever) and political decisions made by the government which are ideological.
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#526Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Denmark where I live, a large proportion of infected people are age 20-29, and I wonder if it would make sense to vaccinate them first when you get to "rest of the population". Even though they have a smaller risk of getting seriously ill, that could be an effective way to lower transmission. That is: 1. Immunize the age group that is dominating in the hospitalization statistics, then 2. Immunize the age group is…
Because A.) Approx 1 20yo in a million will have life threatening complications. Plus B.) there are a lot more of them than their (are people who have non-negligible chance of dying + people around those with non-negligible chance of dying).
The lockdown is justified by certain measurable factors, such as hospitalization rates, the risk of death, and the risk of major complications, and as we vaccinate the population, these factors will decrease. They will decrease quickly at first and then very slowly taper off to zero. (Remember there will be idiots who avoid the vaccine altogether.) It makes sense to ask when Covid crosses the line from a risk that justifies lockdown to a risk that does not.
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#527Re: Pfizer Covid vaccine approved for use next week in UK
#528Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sure that will make those 5,000 who have trouble walking or smiling feel so much better.
60,000 people have already died of COVID in the UK, and many more are scheduled to, without vaccination. Hard to walk or smile when you're dead.
Passed 75k at weekend
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#529Some elderly friends have asked why Britain is opting to use a brand new RNA/nanotechnololgy style vaccine (which has never been approved before) and is only ~94% effective, when there is a traditional inactivated vaccine that is 100% effective? I presume Pfizer simply have better lobying, but given the choice, I would rather go with old-fashioned sinovac https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3..…
Typically flu vaccine is 67% effective, which is similar to the AstraZeneca COVID vaccine.
astra zeneca is 90% effective as there are two doses needed, much like pfizers
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#530Earlier quoted context omitted.
In Denmark where I live, a large proportion of infected people are age 20-29, and I wonder if it would make sense to vaccinate them first when you get to "rest of the population". Even though they have a smaller risk of getting seriously ill, that could be an effective way to lower transmission. That is: 1. Immunize the age group that is dominating in the hospitalization statistics, then 2. Immunize the age group is…
We don't know yet whether the vaccine stops people from being asymptomic spreaders. We do know that it is effective at stopping people from getting ill. So we don't know how beneficial your 2 above would be.
I don't know why you've been downvoted, because this is really important to point out. The vaccine does not, as far as we know, prevent you from spreading COVID; it simply tries to prevent you from having any symptoms. So while it will be effective at keeping people out of hospitals, it may not actually do anything to stop the spread of the virus.