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Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Whatever happened to matrix.org/vector/riot.im/element.io? (side note: most confusing branding ever :-/). Element seemed to be picking up some momentum a few months back. There was recent news that they acquired gitter too [1]. These days I only hear about slack exodus and discord this and discord that, though. If I get it right, from all the group messengers that appeared around 6 years ago, the only one with an ope…

I self-host a Matrix instance and it's great. It's just the network thing where you need your friends to hop on it before it gains much value.

In the meantime, Matrix makes it possible (not trivial, in my experience) to bridge to other chat services. Bridging requires a fair bit of technical know-how.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Amazon is a big place and I can't speak for all of it, but while IT announced that slack was "available" a few months ago, I don't personally know anyone that has actually switched to using it. Everyone still uses Chime. That may just be a peculiarity of my department, but saying "Amazon as a company switched to slack" is definitely overstating what happened.

I work at a company that spends a lot of money at AWS, and one of the many support channels we have now is through shared Slack channels. I can imagine that the main driver behind IT announcing Slack support was for their customer-facing staff to be able to provide support for their customers.

I would be interested to know more about these AWS Slack channels. Are the official? Do you get them with a particular support plan? Where can I find out more information on this?

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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It makes absolute sense - Slack wasn't going to survive as an independent. Their anti-trust efforts against Microsoft + Teams seemed to go nowhere. - Salesforce is one of the only companies that can go to-to-toe with Microsoft in the enterprise - 80%+ of the Fortune 500, 150k+ customers, 200k+ people at their conference each year - Salesforce already know your org chart so can roll out slack to anyone already on forc…

Some decent points. 80% is good to see. The problem is I don't see anyway companies drop Microsoft. Everyone already has teams or chat for free, are they going to pay for slack now? Assuming slack moves to the same model, buy the salesforce suite and get slack, how much added value is slack really providing? Will companies be willing to pay more now that slack is included even though they already have chat apps? I'm…

Teams is the new Skype

> everyone has Teams for free

Prevalent sentiment at my workplace: Teams integrates well for outlook meetings, but it‘s a CPU hog, has crappy chat UI.

It paralyzes work to the extent, that I only prefer to use Slack. Or zoom for bigger video calls.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Or try designing a really great office collaboration suite and end up accidentally making a killer game.

Do games created in excel count? https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/04/how-an-accountant-cre...

I'd think Excel-based games would be more common. It's dataflow programming after all, which is the only form of massively parallel programming that ever caught on in a big way.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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I work at a company that spends a lot of money at AWS, and one of the many support channels we have now is through shared Slack channels. I can imagine that the main driver behind IT announcing Slack support was for their customer-facing staff to be able to provide support for their customers.

I would be interested to know more about these AWS Slack channels. Are the official? Do you get them with a particular support plan? Where can I find out more information on this?

They are officiall and we use our own slack instance. We have an internal dedicated slack channel with our aws team i(technical account manager, solutions architect etc) as well. It can be handy just for organising meetings etc but it is really hit and miss depending on your account team. We are on an enterprise plan.

It definitely helped to have a faster turn around time and provide more visibility for people.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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> if you already use Office, why not Azure? My gut reasoning is that cloud infrastructure is not the same product as office productivity and the two use cases are not the same, the purchasing decisions aren't made by the same people (except at scale, I guess, I'll concede that), and the boots on the ground building shit in the cloud take the path of least resistance where that logic would never apply. I don't really…

First, you start with Office 365, then you put some stuff on One Drive, you add a little list in SharePoint online, then you use Teams to access all that. You move to Azure AD. And then you want to automate or do some nice charts, and there is Power platform just around the corner... and then you find yourself limited so you go Azure Functions... and then start one VM on Azure...

Next after that is running VDIs on either a small Citrix farm on Azure or as Desktop as a Service, since AD, SSO, 2FA ,Productivity tools and user file storage is there.

After that, you already have some firewalling and VPNs in place so adding the odd server is just a step away.

Adding dedicated lines and firewalls and rules and all bella and whistles with all four big players (AMZ, IBM, MSFT, GOOG) plus 2 ISPs adds cost fast, so you typically pick 2. MSFTbis already there for O365 so yeah, they have a head start

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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I'm somewhat surprised that Amazon didn't end up acquiring Slack, considering that the major thing they are missing compared to Microsoft is productivity tools. If they had purchased Dropbox and Slack they could've gotten a foothold rather quickly and slowed down one of Microsoft's major selling points (you already use Office, why not Azure?). Discord could be another interesting company in the chat space, as I'm sur…

however amazon is not really a tech-first company, their main business is retail (even if a lot of their revenue comes from AWS).

You’ve got it backwards. Their main business is aws.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Slack's main differentiator up until now was that it wasn't tied up in a tech giant. That meant it had great compatibility with everything, and that it was, as a product, the primary focus of its company (and not just an accessory). I think it could have survived on that alone, but this acquisition throws that entire story in the garbage. Now it'll just be "Teams but worse".

I haven't read the details but an earlier message said "70x revenue". It is hard to think of a reason not to sell at that multiple.

Slack is valued higher than Kroger, which runs 2,700+ grocery stores in the United Stages.

Apple and Sweden have about the same valuation right now. Apple is worth 30% more than Saudi Arabia.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Well, Slack, it was nice knowing you. I wonder who Discord will get bought up by when it replaces Slack after a year or two of Salesforce mismanagement? It's so sad that this is the cycle for software now. Start small, get big fast, get sold, get ruined. I realize I am presupposing Salesforce will ruin Slack - but it's hard to see how they won't , unless they take the approach Microsoft took with Github and keep it a…

> I realize I am presupposing Salesforce will ruin Slack It's statistically likely to happen. It's interesting to read through lists like this and see what happened: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_AOL * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_Oracle * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitio... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitio...…

Counterpoint is that when Salesforce acquired Heroku, it had almost no negative impact on the product at all.
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