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Post by samatman »

robocat wrote: post #220
samatman wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The gist of what I got from the post you're replying to, which I agree wasn't well fleshed out, is this: If everyone gets a $200 smart watch, and 1/10th of those people avoid obesity, we can avoid $20,000 a year in diabetic care and heart surgery and hip replacement for them when they get to be 60. Completely made up numbers of course, but speaking as one smartwatch wearer, the nudges built into the system play a sig…

> $200 smart watch, and 1/10th of those people avoid obesity, we can avoid $20,000 a year Oh, I completely agree that that is a realistic and worthwhile scenario. I just think that lifetime health costs in dollars do not decrease. Let’s say we get 1/10th less diabetes due to subsidised watches. The total number of people with chronic diseases remains constant because we just get a different chronic disease on average…

I'm with you on this one: my intuition on the subject is screwy and I don't trust it.

Some people spend the last ten or twenty years of their life in and out of the hospital, and some just fall over from an aneurysm after otherwise perfect health. Obesity (really type II diabetes, which morbid obesity pretty much guarantees) really pushes people into the first camp.

But sure, a smart watch won't keep cancer from metastasizing, and staying out of the obesity BMI band only decreases lifetime cancer risk, doesn't eliminate it by any means.

What this thread needs is an actuary...

Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by chrysoprace »

oh_sigh wrote: post #171
chrysoprace wrote: post #105

Really keen on Wyze's lineup of products, but unfortunately after countless requests from people, they still don't ship to Australia.[1] [1] https://forums.wyzecam.com/t/deliver-to-australia/3666

Can you just use a reshipper? Or are there customs implications? It may honestly be a blessing if they ignore Australia - the usual route for companies targeting Australia is to double the USD price for the same product.

Not always, but that's certainly often the case.

I've never used a reshipper but I looked up reship.com and they charge at least $30 (!) to get a 200g parcel (150mm x 150mm x 150mm) shipped here.

Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by bibabaloo »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #198
bibabaloo wrote: post #138

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I don't agree with all their business practices, but if you're looking for an alternative, Garmin watches do all of that well these days. I'm quite happy with my Forerunner 735XT.

Mind if I ask what issue you have with their practices? I try to be a conscious consumer so I’m curious if anything you know would concern me as well.

Mainly that they sell health data (anonymized and aggregated, but still), to undisclosed third parties and they're not super upfront about it.

Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by doitLP »

tcbawo wrote: post #80

Can anyone comment on the current state of the art for the sleep tracking feature of this or other smart watches? I have a Garmin Vivosmart HR that is close to end of life. I'm looking for something light with >7 day battery life, vibrating alarm clock, and decent sleep tracking.

Just curious, what do you actually do with your sleep data? After trying several trackers and building up a week or two of data I don’t really see a use for it. What’s the point of regularly monitoring it?

Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by Eridrus »

umeshunni wrote: post #27

How is Wyze churning out so many new hardware devices so rapidly? I hadn't heard of them till this year when I saw their camera on sale, but now they have a full suite of hardware products with ~50 employees. Are they essentially rebranding some Chinese manufacturer?

They are just rebranding Chinese hardware and it's great.

Doing quality control + localization and delivering a product that just ridiculously undercuts the competition.

I have a lot of admiration that they can make these prices work at all.

Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by anilgulecha »

phs318u wrote: post #204
modeless wrote: post #96

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I assure you, I have evaluated everything on the market. Amazfit devices are >1cm thick (even the ones that claim 9.2mm, it's a lie). They are also larger diameter than the Pebble Time Round, so overall more than twice as big and much less comfortable. The phone software is nowhere near as good, the watch UI is poorly designed, and the watch face/app selection is poor in comparison to Pebble. I haven't tried gadgetbr…

I'm not sure how you evaluated it. I took my Amazfit Bip off my wrist in order to measure it right now. From top glass to bump at bottom surrounding the optical sensor it's 8mm.The diagonal from case edge to case edge,is 47mm. I agree that the phone software could be better. However, I think the watch UI is reasonable given the constraints. As for watch-face selection - there are a couple of dozen - how many do you w…

Far more than that it you consider the community created ones. Heck I built my own too.

https://amazfitwatchfaces.com/

Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by aidenn0 »

copperx wrote: post #148
borgel wrote: post #104

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With 512KB RAM and 16MB flash[1] I assume it's a microcontroller and doesn't run Linux. [1] https://wyze.com/wyze-watch.html#pageDetails

Slightly off topic, but are there microcontrollers that run Linux?

One could argue that the difference between an MCU and an MPU is whether or not it can reasonably run Linux...

Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by modeless »

phs318u wrote: post #204
modeless wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assure you, I have evaluated everything on the market. Amazfit devices are >1cm thick (even the ones that claim 9.2mm, it's a lie). They are also larger diameter than the Pebble Time Round, so overall more than twice as big and much less comfortable. The phone software is nowhere near as good, the watch UI is poorly designed, and the watch face/app selection is poor in comparison to Pebble. I haven't tried gadgetbr…

I'm not sure how you evaluated it. I took my Amazfit Bip off my wrist in order to measure it right now. From top glass to bump at bottom surrounding the optical sensor it's 8mm.The diagonal from case edge to case edge,is 47mm. I agree that the phone software could be better. However, I think the watch UI is reasonable given the constraints. As for watch-face selection - there are a couple of dozen - how many do you w…

Reviewers report 9.5mm, not 8mm [1]. But the original Amazfit Bip is no longer for sale on their store or on Amazon except for overpriced marketplace sellers. They only make later models now which are thicker (they have a dizzying array of different models with similar names which is quite confusing).

I did purchase an Amazfit watch, the GTR 42mm which is supposed to be 9.2mm thick but is >11 in reality. "A couple of dozen" faces is laughable compared to what Pebble offered. The community produced an incredibly diverse set of faces and apps for Pebble. I find the quality of the GTR faces to be mostly poor with them all pretty much looking the same with the same features. For example, you can't do this on an Amazfit watch face: https://store-beta.rebble.io/app/57cc2c33be5ad0d9500002cd let alone the apps which have no equivalent AFAIK: https://store-beta.rebble.io/apps/most-loved/1

[1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/amazfit-bip-review-100-smartwa...

Re: Wyze $20 Smart Watch

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Post by smcameron »

bigiain wrote: post #190
jerlam wrote: post #184

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I've also switched to a Garmin when Pebble went kaput, and one of my todo list items is to port some of the more fun Pebble faces over to Connect IQ. However, as you've noticed, each device feature set is determined by overzealous marketing. My Forerunner 245, despite having tons more memory than my ancient Fenix 3 and considerably faster, has less data screens for running. It doesn't have an altimeter, but the cheap…

I had 3 Pebbles, and a Kickstarter pledge in for a fourth that they cancelled and refunded me when they sold out. I spend the refund money on a small but fun collection of old soviet mechanical watches. The kinda ubiquitous Vostok Amfibia, a "Big Zero", and a pretty poor fake of the Sturmanski Yuri Gagarin wore. I get much "more joy" from these - even the fake Yuri watch - than I ever got from a "smart watch". My usu…

2nding mechanical watches, though my preferred value brand is Orient, but nothing wrong with Vostok. Seiko seems overpriced these days, Orient seems like the new Seiko (though Orient and Seiko are both owned by the same holding company, which happens to be Epson (yeah, as in Epson printers)).
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