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Readable: A more readable version of "readability"

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Re: Readable: A more readable version of "readability"

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A favicon. I just want a favicon. Every single bookmark in my bar has an icon, and no words, and ALL I want is a favicon! Readability doesn't have it; neither does Readable. Makes things much uglier, no matter how pretty the text is. A golden star to whoever hacks it first.

Re: Readable: A more readable version of "readability"

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I'm not aware of the problem you're describing. And I can't seem to reproduce it. Could you provide more details, please? -- URL of an example article, more details on what exactly happens that shouldn't happen. If you'd like, you can get in touch, to do this ( http://readable.tastefulwords.com/about-and-contact/ ) -- as a matter of fact, it would probably be preferable, as opposed to using HC as a bug reporting foru…

I'll do both (report here & there). I just tried the top five HN links. All exhibited the problem. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/powershell/archive/2011/04/16/powers... http://www.logolounge.com/article.asp?aid=lnPf http://code.google.com/p/leveldb/ http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/37525/?p1=A2&a... http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2011/05/solar-fire/ For each, I clicked on the link, and then clicked my newly made R…

The problem, in the steps you said you followed, is the "Print Preview" step. File >> Print Preview will show you a preview of how the entire current page will look like, when printed -- but that's actually not what you want to print.

What you want to print is only contents of Readable's overlay. To that end, please use the Print link, shown in the menu at the bottom of the overlay -- unfortunately, there is no "Print Preview" available.

The technical explanation for this is that Readable's overlay is actually an IFrame -- and browsers support printing the iframe contents as if the iframe were a window onto itself; but they will print the iframe as an element in the main page, when you're printing that instead.

Re: Readable: A more readable version of "readability"

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post #60

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I'm not aware of the problem you're describing. And I can't seem to reproduce it. Could you provide more details, please? -- URL of an example article, more details on what exactly happens that shouldn't happen. If you'd like, you can get in touch, to do this ( http://readable.tastefulwords.com/about-and-contact/ ) -- as a matter of fact, it would probably be preferable, as opposed to using HC as a bug reporting foru…

Easily reproduced. Tried on the following page: http://www.go-hero.net/jam/11/languages

Thanks for confirming. Read my reply here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2526937

Re: Readable: A more readable version of "readability"

#64

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I'll do both (report here & there). I just tried the top five HN links. All exhibited the problem. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/powershell/archive/2011/04/16/powers... http://www.logolounge.com/article.asp?aid=lnPf http://code.google.com/p/leveldb/ http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/37525/?p1=A2&a... http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/2011/05/solar-fire/ For each, I clicked on the link, and then clicked my newly made R…

The problem, in the steps you said you followed, is the "Print Preview" step. File >> Print Preview will show you a preview of how the entire current page will look like, when printed -- but that's actually not what you want to print. What you want to print is only contents of Readable's overlay. To that end, please use the Print link, shown in the menu at the bottom of the overlay -- unfortunately, there is no "Prin…

Wow.

Well, you're right. "Print" works fine.

Three suggestions for you:

(1) Make the "Print" link easier to get at. Not just 'way down at the bottom of the page. Maybe put one with the "Close" link at the upper-right?

(2) Change the text of the "Close" links. I'm not sure what they should say; but "Close" doesn't really convey the right idea. What it actually does, from the user's POV, is not closing, but rather returning to the original styling.

(3) Maybe figure out how to make Readable work with Firefox's Print Preview. (I realize that FF's behavior isn't your fault, but it would still be nifty if it worked.)

Thanks again for all your work.

Re: Readable: A more readable version of "readability"

#65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem, in the steps you said you followed, is the "Print Preview" step. File >> Print Preview will show you a preview of how the entire current page will look like, when printed -- but that's actually not what you want to print. What you want to print is only contents of Readable's overlay. To that end, please use the Print link, shown in the menu at the bottom of the overlay -- unfortunately, there is no "Prin…

Wow. Well, you're right. "Print" works fine. Three suggestions for you: (1) Make the "Print" link easier to get at. Not just 'way down at the bottom of the page. Maybe put one with the "Close" link at the upper-right? (2) Change the text of the "Close" links. I'm not sure what they should say; but "Close" doesn't really convey the right idea. What it actually does, from the user's POV, is not closing , but rather ret…

Readable's interface is due for a slight overhaul. But I haven't yet decided what the new design is going to be. I will take your suggestions into consideration, though.

As for the work: you are most welcome.

Re: Readable: A more readable version of "readability"

#66
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"Legally, Readable's source is under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike license." Erm... Why? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Creative Commons wasn't made for code. There are plenty (even too many) open source licenses to choose from. Why not one of those? EDIT: Yup, using cc for source code is not recommended: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#Can_I_use_a_Creative_Com...

It's not recommended for code, but it's one of the few understandable licenses that includes "non commercial" clauses. I've got clients that want to put out code under "creative commons non commercial" because they don't want the code they paid for being used by commercial competitors, but they're fine with people using it non-commercially. Almost all of the 'open source'-type licenses out there concern themselves so…

In my experience commercial vs non-commercial is a can of worms. Not to mention that using it for code is not recommend as you can read on the Creative Commons website.

Especially if you (the one licensing your work) are not including a definition of commercial use. Since the license does not include a definition (unless things have radically changed lately) of commercial use, your interpretation of commercial may differ from those using your work. Which for both parties may cause issues.

If you do include a definition than at least the people using your work should have some clue as what constitutes commercial in your interpretation. However 'translating' this across judicial systems/countries/cultures/social spheres will again most likely lead to issues you probably want to avoid.

In my personal opinion the commercial vs non-commercial clause should never have existed in the first place. Maybe it should be shelved just as the Developing Nations license[1] was shelved.

disclosure: I was part of the Creative Commons Netherlands team which introduced the licenses in The Netherlands. I'm still involved in the CC community albeit less active then I used to be.

[1] http://creativecommons.org/licenses/devnations/2.0/

Re: Readable: A more readable version of "readability"

#67

A favicon. I just want a favicon. Every single bookmark in my bar has an icon, and no words, and ALL I want is a favicon! Readability doesn't have it; neither does Readable. Makes things much uglier, no matter how pretty the text is. A golden star to whoever hacks it first.

I believe there's an extension (for Firefox, at least) that allows you to create custom buttons for bookmarklets.

In the near future, a native solution will be available -- i.e. I'm working on a thin extension, for all browsers, that will act as Readable's launcher (with benefits like keyboard shortcuts, an icon, and slightly faster load times).

Re: Readable: A more readable version of "readability"

#68
One thing that makes me prefer Readability (or in my case the Readability Redux Chrome extension[1]) is that it's able to stitch together multiple-page articles into one page. It makes reading articles on sites like The Register and Ars Technica much more bearable. I'd love it if Readable gained this feature. (Safari Reader mode also does this, using code from the old Readability.)

[1]: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/jggheggpdocamneaac...

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