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Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by turtlebits »

ivraatiems wrote: post #41

Well, Slack, it was nice knowing you. I wonder who Discord will get bought up by when it replaces Slack after a year or two of Salesforce mismanagement? It's so sad that this is the cycle for software now. Start small, get big fast, get sold, get ruined. I realize I am presupposing Salesforce will ruin Slack - but it's hard to see how they won't , unless they take the approach Microsoft took with Github and keep it a…

Just curious, what Salesforce aquisitions ruined a product? The only ones I know of are Heroku, Quip, and Tableau. I don't see any mention of Salesforce other than optional integrations.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by ivraatiems »

rightbyte wrote: post #198
virgil_disgr4ce wrote: post #73

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> It's so sad that this is the cycle for software now ...now?

Earlier you could just stick with the version you had on your CD or floppy and not care what the C-suits was up to on the company that made the software you used. So I guess it wasn't as obvious back then?

That and software wasn't a service, so you weren't chained to the price points and plan levels that executives decided. If Salesforce decides to force everybody using Slack to get Salesforce instead (which seems not unlikely), there's no recourse. We can't just say "well, we have a perpetual license, so we'll do what we want."

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by spike021 »

variaga wrote: post #206
DigitalBison wrote: post #133

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This is super org-dependent -- my entire org has completely switched to Slack, I only use Chime for meetings now (except for the occasional recruiter or someone outside my org who will ping me on Chime).

So that's the thing. Switching to slack was brought up in our org and most people were at best noncommittal, because the option wasn't really "chime vs. slack", it was "chime vs. chime AND slack". We'd still all need chime for meetings and interacting with any groups that hadn't switched.

It's actually pretty smooth since you can do `/chime` in a Slack channel or DM and it automatically starts a Chime call. Otherwise I just keep Chime open for scheduled meetings.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by Aeolun »

tekacs wrote: post #97

For people looking for an alternative to switch to, we’ve been using Quill [0], which is pretty much a more slick, clean Zulip. It has a great approach to threads, where you can make them mandatory or optional on a per-channel basis (even when optional they have names and are more useful than Slack threads). They also support adding external parties to channels/threads by email or SMS and even more interestingly, the…

This does not appear to be open source?

It doesn’t even have a pricing section.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by blackrock »

jasonv wrote: post #227
CharlesW wrote: post #186

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Unpopular HN opinion: Teams doesn't suck. It's not as pretty/lovable as Slack, but it has an additional level of organization (each team gets their own set of channels), you can add tabs of related apps/sites to each channel, etc. As far as I could tell having used both simultaneously for a few years, Teams is a complete superset of Slack.

Switching channels/teams in Teams is far less efficient than moving through channels in Slack, which means I'm less likely to engage well in Teams.

I’m going to say it again.

Good grief! Teams, suck!

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by throwaway837 »

ivraatiems wrote: post #41

Well, Slack, it was nice knowing you. I wonder who Discord will get bought up by when it replaces Slack after a year or two of Salesforce mismanagement? It's so sad that this is the cycle for software now. Start small, get big fast, get sold, get ruined. I realize I am presupposing Salesforce will ruin Slack - but it's hard to see how they won't , unless they take the approach Microsoft took with Github and keep it a…

Slack never really fulfilled its promise as a stand-alone company, so not sure what you’re afraid of now.

Very unreliable at times eg latency, missed out of video calling, did not take advantage of WFH boom at all, document search was bad.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by jlkuester7 »

xxpor wrote: post #87
Spartan-S63 wrote: post #35

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It's a major opportunity for them, for sure. They are still missing some features I find critical, but they really have things figured out with integrated voice/video communications in the app. The one feature I wish they'd clone from Slack are threaded replies. I know they're rolling out a new way to reply, but it still makes the chat flow messy. I really enjoyed the way Slack allows for breakout threads/replies to…

Oh my god the absolute worst thing about slack are threads. Can we please not bring them to anything else? how do they provide any value whatsoever other than making it hard to realize someone responded to you? Signed, Someone who used IRC for decades

Slack - Too much thread

Discord - Not enough thread

M$ Teams - Just right thread

As much as I hate to say it, after using all three, I definitely like the Teams threads the best. That model offers the best balance of visibility and organization that I have seen.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by colinmhayes »

temp667 wrote: post #218
codemac wrote: post #200

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chat.google.com ?

Try doing the slack step of clicking on the phone icon to start a call, then adding screen sharing. We pay for gsuite and we pay for slack. google chat is no where yet.

You click the video button, switch tabs, and click the screen share button. I agree that chat sucks compared to slack and teams, but it's got enough functionality to not be a deal breaker for companies that are already paying gSuite. Especially if they've never used the superior competitors.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by CharlesW »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #157
CharlesW wrote: post #92

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> They have no direct competition… I don't understand this sentiment at all. Slack is a nicely-done, enterprise-y chat app with a lot of users, most of who liked the idea of not paying for anything. There are many competitors, including several open source options.

Right now but how many competitors does Facebook have or Google. Each operates in its own narrow niche and dominates it. Chat apps will go the same way thanks to the network effects.

I think you're right, but I don't think of that as the result of a lack of competitors. In the enterprise space, it's going to be Salesforce/Slack vs. Microsoft/Teams.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Post by rabidrat »

quicklyfrozen wrote: post #183
raverbashing wrote: post #93

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How is Slack worth 27 Billion dollars? No, really. That's an unreal price. Slack benefits little from network effects. Deployment has no fundamental secret sauce. This is a crazy number. This does not make sense.

The number may be crazy, but Slack does benefit from network effects. For example, my company has many bots/integrations with other systems, years of institutional knowledge, and connections with multiple external vendors. Switching would be painful so there'd have to be some pretty compelling reasons. (And who's got time to recreate all our custom emojis? :-))

That's a moat, not network effects. A network effect would be if your friends at other companies get value from joining Slack while you're on it. But there's not (except maybe sharing integrations/bots).
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