Been a Wyze customer for couple of years now. Bought many of their cameras from their store and Home Depot. The cameras are real good and much much cheaper than other big brands (Ring/Nest etc). It seems they are basically building a Xiaomi kinda of brand in the US (Xiaomi is extremely popular in countries like India where they have huge market base with well styled products similar to Apple line).
Wyze $20 Smart Watch
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#62Been a Wyze customer for couple of years now. Bought many of their cameras from their store and Home Depot. The cameras are real good and much much cheaper than other big brands (Ring/Nest etc). It seems they are basically building a Xiaomi kinda of brand in the US (Xiaomi is extremely popular in countries like India where they have huge market base with well styled products similar to Apple line).
I have multiple Wyze cams and recently got hit with a big surprise, if Wyze cam lost power suddenly, the past 4 mins event footage is NOT stored on the local SD card, and the actual event is not stored on the cloud as well. Wyze still has a long way to go for resiliency comparing with Ring or Nest.
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#63Apple was smart not to compete on the low-end for watches. Median income in the USA is $68,703. Why would someone spend 1/25 of 1 percent of their income on something that they wear 100% of the time? That makes no sense. I shell out $200-$300 each year for the latest FitBit (Apple Watch is promising, but that battery life :(. The sleep tracking is gold).
The problem is, aiming to create a "high-end" product up front ends up shaping the product design.
Now that it is aimed at the high end, Apple needs to include lots of features, a nice display etc. Lots fancy features means they need to use a powerful processor, which along with the nice display leads to a lot of power draw. This is why they have a small battery life, as you mention, and didn't even have an always on display until S5. Neither of these are technological constraints, since the Pebble had 7 day battery life with an always on display from the first version.
Now, the Apple Watch has sold well, so maybe it's a fine tradeoff to make. But I think this "high-end" constraint has definitely shaped the product (and in a way I think is worse when viewed as a watch first).
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
$200 spent on a FitBit will save thousands on annual healthcare bills.
[citation needed]
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=fitbit
Betting against this trend would be like betting against toothbrushes and floss.
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#65Apple was smart not to compete on the low-end for watches. Median income in the USA is $68,703. Why would someone spend 1/25 of 1 percent of their income on something that they wear 100% of the time? That makes no sense. I shell out $200-$300 each year for the latest FitBit (Apple Watch is promising, but that battery life :(. The sleep tracking is gold).
Here's one perspective: about five years ago I stopped buying expensive phones. Now I buy economy Motorolas, and I've never looked back. The performance is somewhat worse than a flagship phone, but I damage my phones pretty frequently and I'm so much less worried about it when the replacement cost is $200 rather than $900.
Price has been a main barrier to my wearing a smart watch as my expectation is that something on my wrist will get damaged even more often - I do a lot of mechanical work. Certainly my $15 Casio is pretty scratched up. At the $20 price point, though, I might give this a try.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's funny - i avoid Wyze because it seems such a good deal. Something seems off about that, the price is simply too good - and i loathe being the product these days.
I hate being the product as well, but it's pretty much inescapable now. Paying for a service does not opt you out of being marketed to other income streams as a product (ie, combined stats, being part of a test group, etc). The best we can hope for by paying for a product is getting additional features and not being inconvenienced (ie, avoiding ads).
I agree, but in the case of audio or video recording devices i am especially paranoid. If someone sells how often i use a toaster i'm annoyed - if someone sells video or audio of me i'm livid.
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#67Apple was smart not to compete on the low-end for watches. Median income in the USA is $68,703. Why would someone spend 1/25 of 1 percent of their income on something that they wear 100% of the time? That makes no sense. I shell out $200-$300 each year for the latest FitBit (Apple Watch is promising, but that battery life :(. The sleep tracking is gold).
Except nobody actually thinks this way, so there's that. $300-400 is a high ticket item, point blank. Aside from Apple, the world is owned by entities that compete mostly on price.
> Except nobody actually thinks this way, so there's that.
I won't argue with that, especially in 2020 :).
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Median income in the USA is $68,703. Be that as it may, there's absolutely a non-trivial amount of revenue available at the low end of the market. Apple historically never participates in that market, but that's an opportunity for other hardware providers.
In fact if you get "good enough" at the low end there is more money there than up top. Sure $200 isn't much compared to me income, but it is still more than an impulse buy. If you can get the $20 market it becomes an impulse buy for a lot more people. If you are good enough they compare with their friends and the friends also buy - those who would never spend $200 on an impulse buy, and those who already have and are…
The low price of $20 actually slows my impulse to buy it. Sure, it's not a lot of money, but how reliable or usable can it be for that price? It makes me think of a cheap knock-off device I'd find at a TJ Maxx store on clearance. What makes it so cheap even compared to a Fitbit?
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#69Interesting, but they ship only to the US, which is a deal breaker for me. Would've ordered.
Gah! Dammit.
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#70As a runner, this is relatively useless without a GPS. Include that and sign me up in a heartbeat.
Look into the Amazfit Bip. A bit more than $20, but cheap and the battery lasts ~40 days. If you're using GPS a lot it will be less than 40. Even so, battery life is measured in weeks, not days.
I'm still rocking my Bip even though I don't use most of the smart features(heart-rate sensor doesn't seem very accurate). I just wear it as a regular watch because it looks good, it's slim and discrete, visible in the sun, has customizable watchfaces and shows me notifications from my phone(via Gadgetbridge, no cloud account BS). That's all I need, I don't want fancy interactive smartphone features on my watch to provide an endless source of distractions for the whole day at an easier reach.
Oh, and the battery lasts forever and because of the low pricetag I won't cry if I break it or scratch it during sports or household chores.
I feel like the Bip is the unofficial successor to the beloved Pebble.