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Vitamin D insufficiency may account for almost 90% of Covid-19 deaths

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Re: Vitamin D insufficiency may account for almost 90% of Covid-19 deaths

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Post by LinuxBender »

underseacables wrote: post #266

Get your vitamin D checked, if you’re spending more than 30% of your time indoors, Which probably accounts for most people here, your vitamin D is deficient. Anything below 50 should be alarming.

Just to add to this, hydroxy-25 levels alone are not enough. Hopefully everyone's doctor also advises them what is a normal level for a healthy person and understands that people that are obese or have insulin resistance will deplete D3, C and Zinc faster due to the heavy load on their innate immune system dealing with low grade inflammation.

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Post by treis »

colechristensen wrote: post #101
treis wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes stories like this pop up all the time for lots of different diseases. There has never been a statistically significant large result observed. There's no way 90% of people dying from Covid would be saved by vitamin D supplements.

> There's no way 90% of people dying from Covid would be saved by vitamin D supplements. Why? I’m not saying the opposite is true, but there is evidence for a inverse relationship between respiratory infections and vitamin D levels. We should all believe things for reasons, what reason do you have for discounting the possibility?

Because we've tried it for Covid and other diseases. The benefit is small at best. Certainly not anywhere near 90%.

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Post by refurb »

hungryforcodes wrote: post #252
refurb wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The OP mentioned the doctor firewall. I don’t live in the US and have the same firewall. It’s not a uniquely American issue.

If you don't tell us where you live, it's not such a useful feedback item. In many (most) places in Asia, you can walk into any clinic and order whatever tests you want if they are reasonable and exist. For alot of tests the results could be available later that day. You do pay, but the cost is usually minimal compared to say the US.

Canada. And sure, I could ask my doctor and he’d say “sure, if you pay for it”.

So just like the US.

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Post by abstractbarista »

underseacables wrote: post #266

Get your vitamin D checked, if you’re spending more than 30% of your time indoors, Which probably accounts for most people here, your vitamin D is deficient. Anything below 50 should be alarming.

Doesn't it depend on what you eat too though? I'm inside a lot but also consume daily lots of stuff that contains high daily value of Vitamin D.

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Post by westwing »

peteretep wrote: post #264
westwing wrote: post #260

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You're being uncharitable, which is part of the problem. These supplements are "recently invented" in terms of evolutionary history and it's not clear how well they work, compared to actual sun exposure. "Not suited to" may be a contentious choice of words, but "not adapted to" is plain fact. Not being adapted to an environment confers disadvantages. Perhaps these disadvantages are minor, certainly in this case they…

> Why would anyone risk investigating genetic differences in medicine, when the payoff is an accusation of racism by well-meaning but uneducated laymen? You are replying in a thread that above has a link to a great deal of race-specific research done on just Covid-19. There is a large amount of race-specific medicinal research. There is a huge amount of scientific research into medical and sociological factors that p…

I didn't mean to say that there isn't any race-specific research, but that there is a risk of being called a racist (or a "race realist") associated with doing such research, especially when it gets attention from sensationalist media and keyboard warriors on social media.

Therefore, if there is such a risk, it must have a chilling effect on actual research and on public health relations, even if doesn't outright prevent it from happening at all.

You are demonstrating that there indeed is such a risk, by suggesting that I'm one step away from proclaiming the superiority of the white race. You're not doing anyone any favors with that.

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Post by danmg »

mrandish wrote: post #57

When the third supportive pre-print paper was released in late April I started my elderly mother on a D3 supplement. As more papers came out in May I started my whole family on it. I read up on dosing and it's pretty hard to overdose unless megadosing over a sustained period of time and negative reactions/interactions are rare. We've been supplementing ~5k to 10k IU daily (total, incl any multi-vitamins) depending on…

I got COVID, and I attribute the fact that I happened to get a fairly mild case of it to the fact I've been taking 10k IU of vitamin D3 since January.

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Post by bdavisx »

hannob wrote: post #199
Mountain_Skies wrote: post #10

It's unfortunate that it is not simple to get regular tests for vitamin and mineral deficiencies. The whole process seems to be stuck behind the doctor appointment firewall. This might be one of the reasons why Theranos was so readily believed. As the quantified self movement that gained popularity around the same time showed, there's an appetite in certain segments of the population for this type of testing and trac…

There's a reason medical tests aren't made easily accessible. The science of when regular testing something helps is complicated. If you test for things that are rare you might cause more harm than good by doing mass testing, because you might overwhelmingly treat people with false positive test results. There's a lively debate around various cancer screening initiatives, which often don't have any good evidence that…

I agree with you on "detection tests" (not sure what a Dr would call them) - but checking for vitamin deficiencies would be more of a preventative type test, and everyone should have those probably once a year or every X years, but that would lower insurance profits, so they don't happen in the US anyway.

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Post by sponaugle »

treeman79 wrote: post #166
themihai wrote: post #132

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I think the inexpensive treatments are abused by many different actors because they carry little or no cost to develop, thus there is reason a to be sceptical. For example you can find a lot of supplements that claim to cure various cancers and many have been proven to have no effect. People even claim that objects or they by themselves cure diseases. If not much money or effort has been put into a 'treatment' you ha…

Suffered horrific migraines for years. Was using injections that costs thousands. My routine these days? Magnesium, Vit D, and massaging TMJ joint. Diet helps a lot too. Cure cancer, no. Help various issues, often.

I had a similar success with taking magnesium to control restless leg syndrome. As some people no doubt remember there are a few speciality drugs ( which you see TV commercials about) that are designed to treat RLS, but I have found that regular magnesium supplementation works very well. I have even done a few inadvertent 'tests' by forgetting to take it with me when I travel that has reinforced the role it has in helping my RLS.

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Post by 11235813213455 »

lame-robot-hoax wrote: post #65
mrandish wrote: post #57

When the third supportive pre-print paper was released in late April I started my elderly mother on a D3 supplement. As more papers came out in May I started my whole family on it. I read up on dosing and it's pretty hard to overdose unless megadosing over a sustained period of time and negative reactions/interactions are rare. We've been supplementing ~5k to 10k IU daily (total, incl any multi-vitamins) depending on…

I wouldn’t worry too much about sunscreen. Don’t have the link, but I remember reading a study that sunscreen had pretty much a zero 0% effect on Vitamin D levels, because most people wear way less sunscreen than they should, and the left over areas that people miss still produce enough.

btw sunscreen has a pretty negative effect on environment though, and is easily avoidable anyway with a cap/clothes

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Post by anoncake »

wraptile wrote: post #172

As someone with a constant vitamin D insufficiency I'd like to remind people that absorbtion is very difficult - you have to take it with a fatty meal! > The presence of fat in a meal with which a vitamin D-3 supplement is taken significantly enhances absorption of the supplement [1] 1 - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25441954

Getting people to eat fatty meals doesn't sound very challenging.
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