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PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by goda90 »

iagovar wrote: post #7

OT: Is Pinebook worth it to RDP with remmina? I'm currently using a fanless 13.5" Acer B115m but It's getting old and deteriorated (the screen plastic is peeling off...). I've been trying to find a replacement, but with better screen, which my main complaint about the B115m (I use it mainly outdoors with 4g, I need brightness), but most laptops use fans, which I'm trying to avoid. Had no luck in the <500€ range.

I've got the pinebook pro. If you want something that "just works", it's not quite there. The community is constantly working on it though. I think with full driver support it can be a great little machine.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by p4bl0 »

vorticalbox wrote: post #5
netol wrote: post #4

I can't believe KDE can be run in a phone, when I tried to run KDE in my desktop it always felt sluggish and unstable

Same I also dislike activities I would much rather hack actual desktops or workspaces I can switch between.

You can have desktops that you can switch between in KDE. How are activities different from workspaces? I've never really used any of the two.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by oriesdan »

swiley wrote: post #18
oriesdan wrote: post #9

For the record, I received yesterday the new mainboard that will be in those phones to replace the one of my pinephone UBport edition. The boost in RAM (3gb instead of 2gb) does the trick for me, allowing to use firefox. Not to the point that the experience is even close to android, but at least usable (before that, I used elinks on the phone). The system I use (mobian/phosh) still feels sluggish, but I suspect it's…

Supposedly improvements in hardware acceleration have changed this but IME a window manager with no compositing is way faster than phosh. I use fluxbox and on that firefox scrolls in real time for example.

Thanks for mentioning it.

How does fluxbox works on mobile? Is it basically the same than the desktop on a small resolution, or it can receive phone calls and have a notification bar?

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by oriesdan »

kop316 wrote: post #16
oriesdan wrote: post #9

For the record, I received yesterday the new mainboard that will be in those phones to replace the one of my pinephone UBport edition. The boost in RAM (3gb instead of 2gb) does the trick for me, allowing to use firefox. Not to the point that the experience is even close to android, but at least usable (before that, I used elinks on the phone). The system I use (mobian/phosh) still feels sluggish, but I suspect it's…

> It's especially interesting because someone from Plasma mobile team told on HN the other day that they support MMS. I'm curious about this too, as I explicitly tried plasma mobile on several distros (PostmarketOS, Manjaro, KDE Neon), and MMS did not work for me at all. It seems to work on the ofono stack, which seems to be closer to supporting MMS versus ModemManger + Chatty, but I'd love to hear from that same per…

For reference, this was the post, in case you come around the author : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25101199

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by p4bl0 »

oriesdan wrote: post #24
swiley wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Supposedly improvements in hardware acceleration have changed this but IME a window manager with no compositing is way faster than phosh. I use fluxbox and on that firefox scrolls in real time for example.

Thanks for mentioning it. How does fluxbox works on mobile? Is it basically the same than the desktop on a small resolution, or it can receive phone calls and have a notification bar?

If it's the compositor that causes the problem, can't it be disabled? I don't know phosh but in Plasma you can disable the compositing from the system settings.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by danielg0 »

phoe-krk wrote: post #2

The title should be changed to "PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available"; the article is about PinePhone, not KDE.

Apologies, I've edited it now. I did consider this initially, but the guidelines ask that the original title is used, and I wasn't sure if this fell under misleading.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by phoe-krk »

danielg0 wrote: post #27
phoe-krk wrote: post #2

The title should be changed to "PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available"; the article is about PinePhone, not KDE.

Apologies, I've edited it now. I did consider this initially, but the guidelines ask that the original title is used, and I wasn't sure if this fell under misleading.

Thanks.

I'd say it's "confusing" rather than "misleading"; this is because of lack of context. Reading "KDE Community Edition released" when you're on a Pinephone website is more meaningful than reading "KDE Community Edition released" on Hacker News, with only the pine64.org domain being available next to the link.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by 0x445442 »

codetrotter wrote: post #11
wtf_is_up wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have used KDE through Kubuntu and Arch for some time after trying virtually every DE/WM out there. It's not perfect, but it's really good. I don't know how people use the stock Ubuntu DE. It's tragic.

Another Ubuntu based distro with KDE, and one that I think most people haven’t heard about, but which I am personally fond of is KDE’s own KDE Neon. > More than ever people expect a stable desktop with cutting-edge features, all in a package which is easy to use and ready to make their own. > KDE neon is the intersection of these needs using a stable Ubuntu long-term release as its core, packaging the hottest softwar…

I've found KDE Neon to be WAY more stable than Kubuntu. And this has been the case on multiple LTS versions. I just think this is odd since, in theory, they should only differ by the KDE apps that are installed.

Re: PinePhone KDE Community Edition is now available

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Post by oriesdan »

p4bl0 wrote: post #26
oriesdan wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for mentioning it. How does fluxbox works on mobile? Is it basically the same than the desktop on a small resolution, or it can receive phone calls and have a notification bar?

If it's the compositor that causes the problem, can't it be disabled? I don't know phosh but in Plasma you can disable the compositing from the system settings.

Nope, there's no option for that in phosh settings. Actually, it's the compositor (phoc) that starts gnome-session in /usr/bin/phosh. I've just tried to edit the startup script to launch gnome-session directly, but it would refuse to start.

It's also a pure wayland system, so it's quite unlike what we're used on desktop.

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