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Re: Ask HN: How do you work through large ideas?

#81

If it's of any consolation, I too have these "grand" ideas. My obsession for the past ~30 years (I'm 40-something now) has been "how to build the city of the future".

I'm fascinated by that question too. What have you come up with? (Your blog domain listed in your HN profile seems kaput.) Have you heard of Paolo Soleri's "arcology" concept? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcology

Yes, I even visited Arcosanti a few years back!

Re: Ask HN: How do you work through large ideas?

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I'm fascinated by that question too. What have you come up with? (Your blog domain listed in your HN profile seems kaput.) Have you heard of Paolo Soleri's "arcology" concept? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcology

Yes, I even visited Arcosanti a few years back!

Ah, that's so cool.

My dream is something like Christopher Alexander's Pattern Language, extended with the content and patterns from Bill Mollison's Permaculture Designers' Manual, and leavened with the arcology concept.

(What about John Todd's "Living Machines" work? You hip? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wojrOpH5O7M )

Re: Ask HN: How do you work through large ideas?

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I have a very big idea(documented here: https://bsldld.neocities.org) It is a moonshot project, and I won't be able to do it alone. So I talked to a lot of people, from politicians to policy makers, and from educators to entrepreneurs, even before writing a single line of code. Guess what? Everyone said that the idea is really very good, but not doable in its current form. Unless, it solves an immediate problem that is tractable. If you have a big vision, try to break it down to very small pieces such that not only does those small pieces are understandable by people who will be affected by that project, but also it is easy and quicker to implement.

So if you have a big problem that seems difficult to implement, then try to break down that problem and attack each piece from different angle. And once you have enough leverage within the community/user-groups then go after the grand vision.

Re: Ask HN: How do you work through large ideas?

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I think you've got a lot of great answers here. And I'm pretty much in agreement with the majority - but particularly coming from a design research background I would say that very often, the best bet for something like this - that definitively can't have a single right answer - is to just prototype and test.

Prototypes can be as simple as writing a short piece of what one vision could be and then putting it on a blog to get people's comments. It could be creating a storyboard type of comic painting that alternative future. It could be making memes that aim to get people's responses to the idea.

The important part is to just start the conversation and slowly start to uncover all of the messy and complex systemic factors.

And then continue to gather the information, divide it into smaller parts, talk to specialists about the parts that are outside your immediate expertise, and definitely do what others suggested and apply cross-domain thinking to it. The solutions to some challenges already exist in some form in other unrelated domains.

But as long as you can treat what you create as 'disposable' you won't go wrong with a design(make) first approach.

Re: Ask HN: How do you work through large ideas?

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Write a book? It seems to me a lot of the "experts" out there are really just people who were somewhat curious about an idea, started collecting information, and then formulated the information into a book. Likewise, if you really are interested in the idea of "what's the best ay to organize a liberal democracy..." maybe go get a political science degree or start hanging around in places where there are think tanks discussing issues like that?

Re: Ask HN: How do you work through large ideas?

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I even visited Arcosanti a few years back!

Ah, that's so cool. My dream is something like Christopher Alexander's Pattern Language, extended with the content and patterns from Bill Mollison's Permaculture Designers' Manual, and leavened with the arcology concept. (What about John Todd's "Living Machines" work? You hip? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wojrOpH5O7M )

I am not familiar with John Todd's work. I will take a look!

Re: Ask HN: How do you work through large ideas?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, that's so cool. My dream is something like Christopher Alexander's Pattern Language, extended with the content and patterns from Bill Mollison's Permaculture Designers' Manual, and leavened with the arcology concept. (What about John Todd's "Living Machines" work? You hip? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wojrOpH5O7M )

I am not familiar with John Todd's work. I will take a look!

Cheers! I'm not a domain expert but his work seems to me to be even more advanced than things like regenerative agriculture. He's actually designing and constructing "machines" that include ecosystems as elements.
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