Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Show HN: I Rebuilt MySpace from 2007

spacehey.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

251–260 of 307 posts

Re: Show HN: I Rebuilt MySpace from 2007

#251

Post by gonzo41 »

corytheboyd wrote: post #186
meekmockmook wrote: post #55

As someone with extremely deep contempt for Silicon Valley, Big Tech monopolies, and modern social media culture, this brought a tear to my eye.It was so easy to make new friends online once upon a time. The fascist uniformity of modern social platforms has left a generation creatively stifled and alienated from each other. I miss the ugly comet cursors, the crummy MIDI tunes, the bad HTML, the encouragement to make…

> The fascist uniformity of modern social platforms It’s funny, because when Facebook was new my friends and I flocked to it FOR the uniformity! Little did we know we helped contribute to the downfall of the free and fun internet :/

Also democracy, don't forget democracy is also a victim. :P

Re: Show HN: I Rebuilt MySpace from 2007

#253

Post by pmlnr »

alelos wrote: post #243
meekmockmook wrote: post #55

As someone with extremely deep contempt for Silicon Valley, Big Tech monopolies, and modern social media culture, this brought a tear to my eye.It was so easy to make new friends online once upon a time. The fascist uniformity of modern social platforms has left a generation creatively stifled and alienated from each other. I miss the ugly comet cursors, the crummy MIDI tunes, the bad HTML, the encouragement to make…

Try the 'small web', I'm enjoying gemini, https://gemini.circumlunar.space/

Here's the thing: gopher & gemini are, in a sense, like Facebook: extremely uniform. In that sense, they are not even BBSes, because it's practically impossible to convey self expression beyond text. Don't get me wrong: one can easily get lost in gopherholes with 20+ years of content, but it's always only content.

In contrast the web of the early 2000s was awesome, because you already could do a lot of really weird things (bouncing mouse trailing balls, anyone?) resulting in self-expressing art-like sites - the pinnacle of these kind of sites were undoubtedly the Flash era.

So yes, depends on what one is after. Maybe both are needed.

Re: Show HN: I Rebuilt MySpace from 2007

#254

Post by Proziam »

mch82 wrote: post #208
dragonwriter wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You mean the folks who think a black person is worth 3/5th of a white person? No, an originalist doesn't treat the unamended text as sacred, they (in principal) treat the original meaning (textualist) or intent (intentionalist) of the current, amended text as controlling. Also, you don't understand the 3/5 compromised which has nothing to do with the worth of a black person. It had to do with how much voting power…

Have you found people apply this logic consistently, or do you find people cherry pick?

I fall firmly into the category being described. From my experience, the internet is an abysmal place to discuss these ideas regardless of which side you're on. The left and right both love to misapply statistics and misrepresent their counterparts whenever it's convenient to do so.

Modern social platforms simply do not allow you the room to express the nuance required for the topics at hand. You need far more than 280 characters and a few memes to articulate a point where you have to literally reference text, history, and tradition because so few people are versed in it.

The most incendiary example is the 2nd Amendment. Discussing it without your counterpart understanding the history and philosophies that spawned it (British longbow tradition, assize of arms laws from 1100s on, centralized Prussian style military vs militias, etc) makes for a nauseating experience.

Re: Show HN: I Rebuilt MySpace from 2007

#255

Post by cutler »

meekmockmook wrote: post #55

As someone with extremely deep contempt for Silicon Valley, Big Tech monopolies, and modern social media culture, this brought a tear to my eye.It was so easy to make new friends online once upon a time. The fascist uniformity of modern social platforms has left a generation creatively stifled and alienated from each other. I miss the ugly comet cursors, the crummy MIDI tunes, the bad HTML, the encouragement to make…

Those were also the days when you could run your own mailserver without being subject to Google and Microsoft's arbitrary blacklisting. Days when embedding a url in an email didn't risk it being treated as junk. Days when every barely-more-than-static website wasn't an SPA carved up into components. Days when PHP was gloriously procedural. Days when Perl was still cool.

Re: Show HN: I Rebuilt MySpace from 2007

#256

Post by iankp »

How did you recreate the interface though? Most of it was behind the log-in screen which wasn't captured by archive services. Are you trying to scrap together old screenshots? Even with that, I feel like not all UI screens are represented.

Re: Show HN: I Rebuilt MySpace from 2007

#257

Post by iankp »

meekmockmook wrote: post #55

As someone with extremely deep contempt for Silicon Valley, Big Tech monopolies, and modern social media culture, this brought a tear to my eye.It was so easy to make new friends online once upon a time. The fascist uniformity of modern social platforms has left a generation creatively stifled and alienated from each other. I miss the ugly comet cursors, the crummy MIDI tunes, the bad HTML, the encouragement to make…

The most interesting thing to note is that MySpace was personal. The smallest facet of what MySpace was, the 50px tall little "Bulletin" feature, was the place where you talk to yourself at everyone. This, however, is what the entire internet has become, the social paradigm shift, thanks to Facebook's sterile data output container superseding it. Facebook is the MySpace "Bulletin" blown to full size, and that's what we've come to believe the web and networking are. The only saving grace for Twitter is that it's where you follow people you DON'T know, and they tend to be industry experts.

Re: Show HN: I Rebuilt MySpace from 2007

#258

Post by cutler »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #215
hestefisk wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aah yes, mod_perl. That brings back memories.

If you had enough rack space, mod_perl+Apache2 could scale to anything you needed. Hundreds of Gbps, hundreds of thousands of RPS. Inefficient, sure, but seriously flexible+performant and really easy to deploy. I miss the old stacks, as Nginx and the other httpds really suck in comparison (feature-wise) and Java is still such a huge PITA. I'd honestly rather use modern PHP than today's Java webapps.

PHP is pseudo-Java anyway so where's the win?

Re: Show HN: I Rebuilt MySpace from 2007

#259

Post by selfhoster11 »

pmlnr wrote: post #253
alelos wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try the 'small web', I'm enjoying gemini, https://gemini.circumlunar.space/

Here's the thing: gopher & gemini are, in a sense, like Facebook: extremely uniform. In that sense, they are not even BBSes, because it's practically impossible to convey self expression beyond text. Don't get me wrong: one can easily get lost in gopherholes with 20+ years of content, but it's always only content. In contrast the web of the early 2000s was awesome, because you already could do a lot of really weird t…

Graphics or audio needs some sort of talent and ever-so-tiny amount of skills with some editing program to make it work. Text needs merely a QWERTY (or touchscreen) keyboard, and the ability to compose text in the natural language of your choice (which most are able to do by the age of 10, barring low-literacy areas). In that sense, text is much cheaper to use for self-expression, even though necessarily limited. On the other hand, Gemini/Gopher is near-symbiotic with BBS and IRC-based communities, which are a decent text-based interactive media that could be useful for self-expression in the hands of the right people.

I agree that multimedia-based networked self-expression is limited these days, but maybe something else will spark a Gemini-like comback for multimedia in the future.

Re: Show HN: I Rebuilt MySpace from 2007

#260

Post by HenryBemis »

meekmockmook wrote: post #55

As someone with extremely deep contempt for Silicon Valley, Big Tech monopolies, and modern social media culture, this brought a tear to my eye.It was so easy to make new friends online once upon a time. The fascist uniformity of modern social platforms has left a generation creatively stifled and alienated from each other. I miss the ugly comet cursors, the crummy MIDI tunes, the bad HTML, the encouragement to make…

> Modern social media is cold and hostile.

Υou misspelled "monitized". I tried to play TribalWars. I remember playing this game a decade ago. It was fun. Stil it. There are so many things that could be done with 2 clicks, instead of 10. But, hey, they can be! As long as you buy/spend "premium points". I deleted my account after two weeks playing 30mins per day. To grow further I would either have to spend 1h per day (then 2h, 3h, and so on) or buy the click-reducers. I will go back to my AoE2-AOK)!!

The internet/websites/services have vastly improved. AND the pricing model has too. There are plenty of discussions in HN about "setting the correct price". That sweet spot that will yield YOU (the maker) the most profit. You don't want 1bn customers giving you $1. You want 1k customers that will give you $1.5m instead. This way you got less costs and more revenue. And you got better marketing ("everyone has an android but who can afford a cool $1k rose gold (puke) iphone???)

You want that cute guy/lady? You have to pay! (See Ashley Madison and their business model/practices)(https://gizmodo.com/ashley-madison-code-shows-more-women-and...)

You don't pay? It's ok, someone else will and will get ahead in line, and you then will suffer from FOMO (ok not exactly but you still reduce your opportunities)(gotta make it rain to the company!).

Post reply on HN