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Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by lazyasciiart »

aogaili wrote: post #61
jbverschoor wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually potatoes are mostly water. They’re packed with nutrition.

It has carbs and it is usually recommended to consume before strength training workout to fuel the body. I've fasted for 35 days and lost 15 kilos in 2 weeks, I think I know how to lose weight effectively. Here is my data https://i.ibb.co/rydPXDR/Screen-Shot-2020-10-22-at-3-07-52-P...

Being able to rapidly lose weight and then re-gain it does not give the impression that you know how to lose weight “effectively”. That’s how standard crash diets work.

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Post by lazyasciiart »

disown wrote: post #33

> After two weeks on potatoes, you go to a plant based, vegan lifestyle until you hit your target weight Aren't potatoes "plant based, vegan"? I swear people go from one extreme terrible diet to another. Going from one terrible diet to another is only gonna cause more problems. What is so difficult about eating a balanced meal. Veggies, bread/rice/pasta, meat/fish/poulty, fruits, etc? If you are fat and want to lose…

I suspect that “going to a vegan diet” means introducing additional foods, but only things that are vegan.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by qz2 »

renewiltord wrote: post #74
qz2 wrote: post #40

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This took a few months. If you have to cheat to make a life changing health difference then you’ve not solved the problem. You’ve replaced it with another one.

This is classic Hardship Theology which rests upon the tenet that things must induce some hardship in order for there to be benefit. Reality has no such restriction.

You’re right. But it does have unexpected side effects and other consequences.

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Post by coldtea »

mjbeswick wrote: post #3

If your aim is to lose body fat, than that's a terrible diet. If you want to lose body fat effectively, why not copy the diet of bodybuilders that get lean for a living!?

>why not copy the diet of bodybuilders that get lean for a living!?

Because bodybuilders (a) also have strong wills in dietary matters and everyday regimen, (b) tend to follow complex diets strictly, (c) tend to get supplements, including non-healthy ones, (d) also do hard exercize to go along with the diet, (e) getting lean is basically what they do 24/7.

So, yeah, if (a), (b), (c), (d), (e) being the same for someone, then it would be a good idea for them to follow a bodybuilder diet...

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by qz2 »

chrisseaton wrote: post #46
qz2 wrote: post #5

Oh joy another diet fad. They’re just stupid. Just eat a balanced diet with less calories and do exercise. It works. If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. 231lb to 157lb here this year doing just that. 1600 calorie cap and regular exercise, mostly walking. After weight was gone, calories back up to normal and maintain the exercise. I should note that this was achieved by eating less potatoes and fruit and eatin…

> It works. If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. If people are tempted to cheat... then the diet isn't working, is it?

The diet is working. If you’re cheating then you need to fix you not the diet.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by aogaili »

lazyasciiart wrote: post #81
aogaili wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has carbs and it is usually recommended to consume before strength training workout to fuel the body. I've fasted for 35 days and lost 15 kilos in 2 weeks, I think I know how to lose weight effectively. Here is my data https://i.ibb.co/rydPXDR/Screen-Shot-2020-10-22-at-3-07-52-P...

Being able to rapidly lose weight and then re-gain it does not give the impression that you know how to lose weight “effectively”. That’s how standard crash diets work.

I gained muscles, I was working out daily after the 2 weeks and dropped my body fat from 25% to 15%. After the fast, my body fat was 10% and I didn't like it, as I looked skinny.

If you want to stay at the low body fat, you can just reduce the food intake after the 2 week and not bulk up again. The fact is I did lose 15 kilos in two weeks and that is effective.

You could also use less extreme fast and make it gradual, but the mechanism of losing body fat became very systematic to me.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by jart »

lmilcin wrote: post #7

This is sad. In so many ways. People, please, do not copy. If your aim is to loose weight you absolutely have to provide a varied, balanced, healthy diet. If nothing else, learning to provide it without calorie restriction is already going to help. Your body has to extract what it needs from less food so the food has to be more rich in quality content. Also eating only carbs will mean opening a can of other problems.…

Who are we to tell him what his body needs? Diets like these are usually more psychology than science. What science teaches us that the human body is remarkably resilient at survival and it doesn't say much about lifestyle. What this guy wants to do doesn't sound all that different from the bread/potato/rice diets most humans subsisted on until the twentieth century. So probably harmless. I believe in encouraging people who want to make positive changes in their life. There's also YouTube videos of others who've apparently had success changing their lifestyle by potato dieting.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by coldtea »

ThePhysicist wrote: post #45

The only thing that will reliably make you lose weight is putting in less energy than your body consumes. To my knowledge all the dietary fads (low-carb, high-carb, all-starch, interval fasting, ...) have failed to produce any measurable effects in scientific studies.

>have failed to produce any measurable effects in scientific studies.

That's not a problem, because scientific studies have also failed to produce any great way of losing weight (including the "sticking to it part"), whereas non-scientific diets have worked wonders for individual people...

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by chrisseaton »

qz2 wrote: post #85
chrisseaton wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It works. If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. If people are tempted to cheat... then the diet isn't working, is it?

The diet is working. If you’re cheating then you need to fix you not the diet.

No a bad diet makes people vulnerable to cheating. A good diet helps you not cheat. That’s the whole goal in designing weight-loss diets! Help people reduce their calorie intake while not going mad or cheating.

An otherwise brilliant diet that drives everyone to cheat is useless.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by coldtea »

mellosouls wrote: post #53

Worth remembering Penn Jillette used to be a champion for obesity and not taking responsibility for yourself - I'm thinking particularly of the "Bullshit" episode where he attempted to corral science into justifying his own condition, undermining the whole premise of the series. Perhaps he has issued a mea culpa. As he himself says though, this is not a man to follow on this subject. Best wishes to the author here th…

>Worth remembering Penn Jillette used to be a champion for obesity and not taking responsibility for yourself

It's easy to do (and probably, one good way to enjoy yourself however it is) when you're younger...

After an age though, the consequences of obesity get worse than the fun of eating...

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