Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

I Am Not Fat

adambourg.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

71–80 of 146 posts

Re: I Am Not Fat

#71

Post by lazyasciiart »

otabdeveloper4 wrote: post #16
qz2 wrote: post #5

Oh joy another diet fad. They’re just stupid. Just eat a balanced diet with less calories and do exercise. It works. If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. 231lb to 157lb here this year doing just that. 1600 calorie cap and regular exercise, mostly walking. After weight was gone, calories back up to normal and maintain the exercise. I should note that this was achieved by eating less potatoes and fruit and eatin…

> do exercise Exercise does nothing in losing weight. (If you've seen the people doing physical labor for 10 hours a day, you know they're not necessarily thin.)

It does a lot towards making you healthy though.

Re: I Am Not Fat

#72

Post by russellbeattie »

You're all wrong. The correct way to diet is totally different than what you think it is. You'd have to be a complete idiot to do it one way when another way is obviously more scientific. I once dieted a third way and it was way more effective than the second way, but it wasn't as healthy. You just have to look at the facts. Anyone who isn't doing the right diet - like I've been doing for years now - just doesn't understand how the human metabolism works. It's sad, really, this stuff is just basic. Stick to what's natural and you'll be eating in no time, trust me.

Re: I Am Not Fat

#73

Post by CodeGlitch »

senectus1 wrote: post #43
disown wrote: post #33

> After two weeks on potatoes, you go to a plant based, vegan lifestyle until you hit your target weight Aren't potatoes "plant based, vegan"? I swear people go from one extreme terrible diet to another. Going from one terrible diet to another is only gonna cause more problems. What is so difficult about eating a balanced meal. Veggies, bread/rice/pasta, meat/fish/poulty, fruits, etc? If you are fat and want to lose…

I know a few "fat" vegans. Its not like their diet is inherently healthy...

Yeah me too. I knew one guy who seemed to eat nothing but potato chips. Like 3 bags in one go...

Re: I Am Not Fat

#74

Post by renewiltord »

qz2 wrote: post #40
renewiltord wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. Well, that's the catch, isn't it? The meta-technique is where the problem is. "Study hard for the exam. If you can't study, that's the problem". Useless advice to the guy addicted to games. And we know one true answer for effective weight loss: pharmaceuticals. Ludicrous success rate. All of this other stuff is slow. Cheat. Life's too short to play fair.

This took a few months. If you have to cheat to make a life changing health difference then you’ve not solved the problem. You’ve replaced it with another one.

This is classic Hardship Theology which rests upon the tenet that things must induce some hardship in order for there to be benefit. Reality has no such restriction.

Re: I Am Not Fat

#75

Post by lazyasciiart »

ThePhysicist wrote: post #45

The only thing that will reliably make you lose weight is putting in less energy than your body consumes. To my knowledge all the dietary fads (low-carb, high-carb, all-starch, interval fasting, ...) have failed to produce any measurable effects in scientific studies.

My impression is that studies find that any diet can help people lose weight if that’s why they began it - hypothesis is that it’s the change and increased attention that works, not what you change to.

Re: I Am Not Fat

#76

Post by lmilcin »

Mashimo wrote: post #62
lmilcin wrote: post #7

This is sad. In so many ways. People, please, do not copy. If your aim is to loose weight you absolutely have to provide a varied, balanced, healthy diet. If nothing else, learning to provide it without calorie restriction is already going to help. Your body has to extract what it needs from less food so the food has to be more rich in quality content. Also eating only carbs will mean opening a can of other problems.…

It's just for two weeks though.

Probably you haven't read the conclusion: "I’m off to eat more potatoes!"

Re: I Am Not Fat

#77

Post by lmilcin »

throwaway201103 wrote: post #64
lmilcin wrote: post #7

This is sad. In so many ways. People, please, do not copy. If your aim is to loose weight you absolutely have to provide a varied, balanced, healthy diet. If nothing else, learning to provide it without calorie restriction is already going to help. Your body has to extract what it needs from less food so the food has to be more rich in quality content. Also eating only carbs will mean opening a can of other problems.…

Eating potatoes for two weeks is not going to seriously unbalance him (any more than he already is at 330lbs). For someone who is a habitual overeater, a varied balanced healthy diet may have too many opportunities to cheat. Sometimes you need an extreme change to snap out of old habits.

You haven't read the conclusion: "I’m off to eat more potatoes!"

Listen, if you change your diet drastically it is possible that just reducing amount of salt in your diet is going to cause drop in amount of water in your body and reduce your body mass.

Re: I Am Not Fat

#78

Post by coldtea »

qz2 wrote: post #5

Oh joy another diet fad. They’re just stupid. Just eat a balanced diet with less calories and do exercise. It works. If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. 231lb to 157lb here this year doing just that. 1600 calorie cap and regular exercise, mostly walking. After weight was gone, calories back up to normal and maintain the exercise. I should note that this was achieved by eating less potatoes and fruit and eatin…

>Just eat a balanced diet with less calories and do exercise.

That's the easy way.

Re: I Am Not Fat

#79

Post by lmilcin »

Teknoman117 wrote: post #68
jamil7 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. He’s avoided learning anything about food, cooking and nutrition in favour of treating potatoes like coal. Also why is he cooking an individual meal for every family member? Can’t they all just eat something healthy and he eats a smaller portion of it? Or is this common in the US?

My mother went fully vegan after reading Forks over Knives, and she started having to cook two meals as the other household members (I became an adult and moved out years ago) refused to eat vegan. A year later, mom is now the healthiest of us. Her blood work is perfect and she feels great. Rest of the family is in the same situation we always have been.

Probably she isn't eating just potatoes?

I have nothing against vegan diet. You just need to know what you are doing and be committed to be balancing the diet yourself. Meat is an easy choice that gives everything the body needs plus some stuff that it doesn't.

Re: I Am Not Fat

#80

Post by coldtea »

chance_bear wrote: post #26
otabdeveloper4 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> do exercise Exercise does nothing in losing weight. (If you've seen the people doing physical labor for 10 hours a day, you know they're not necessarily thin.)

Well, technically not nothing. Exercise can get you a few hundred extra calories burned a day, which will have an impact. But the sentiment is correct. 90% of losing weight is eating less calories. Exercise is still good though, without it a lot of the lost weight is going to be muscle.

>Exercise can get you a few hundred extra calories burned a day, which will have an impact.

Not if the increased appetite after the exercize (and the "I exercized for now I'm entitled to some nice food") gets you to gulp more at lunch/diner....

Post reply on HN