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Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by aogaili »

jbverschoor wrote: post #20
aogaili wrote: post #4

This won't work very effectively. Your best bet is to fast (water fast) for as long as you can, if you can't then add protein (not carbs). Potatoes is very rich in carbs, your body won't go to ketosis (using fat as fuel) thus you won't see much impact. I also recommend getting smart meter and measure your fat percentage daily so you can tune your diet.

Actually potatoes are mostly water. They’re packed with nutrition.

It has carbs and it is usually recommended to consume before strength training workout to fuel the body.

I've fasted for 35 days and lost 15 kilos in 2 weeks, I think I know how to lose weight effectively.

Here is my data

https://i.ibb.co/rydPXDR/Screen-Shot-2020-10-22-at-3-07-52-P...

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Post by Mashimo »

lmilcin wrote: post #7

This is sad. In so many ways. People, please, do not copy. If your aim is to loose weight you absolutely have to provide a varied, balanced, healthy diet. If nothing else, learning to provide it without calorie restriction is already going to help. Your body has to extract what it needs from less food so the food has to be more rich in quality content. Also eating only carbs will mean opening a can of other problems.…

It's just for two weeks though.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by aogaili »

ReptileMan wrote: post #8
aogaili wrote: post #4

This won't work very effectively. Your best bet is to fast (water fast) for as long as you can, if you can't then add protein (not carbs). Potatoes is very rich in carbs, your body won't go to ketosis (using fat as fuel) thus you won't see much impact. I also recommend getting smart meter and measure your fat percentage daily so you can tune your diet.

He will eat them without flavoring and salt. Chances are he will just not eat too much of the blandness. This is soylent green.

Yes, or he will quit and go back to his old diet.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by throwaway201103 »

lmilcin wrote: post #7

This is sad. In so many ways. People, please, do not copy. If your aim is to loose weight you absolutely have to provide a varied, balanced, healthy diet. If nothing else, learning to provide it without calorie restriction is already going to help. Your body has to extract what it needs from less food so the food has to be more rich in quality content. Also eating only carbs will mean opening a can of other problems.…

Eating potatoes for two weeks is not going to seriously unbalance him (any more than he already is at 330lbs). For someone who is a habitual overeater, a varied balanced healthy diet may have too many opportunities to cheat. Sometimes you need an extreme change to snap out of old habits.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by CodeGlitch »

otabdeveloper4 wrote: post #16
qz2 wrote: post #5

Oh joy another diet fad. They’re just stupid. Just eat a balanced diet with less calories and do exercise. It works. If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. 231lb to 157lb here this year doing just that. 1600 calorie cap and regular exercise, mostly walking. After weight was gone, calories back up to normal and maintain the exercise. I should note that this was achieved by eating less potatoes and fruit and eatin…

> do exercise Exercise does nothing in losing weight. (If you've seen the people doing physical labor for 10 hours a day, you know they're not necessarily thin.)

This x100. I known plenty of people who spend the day on their feet lifting heavy things, and are classed as overweight. I sit at a desk all day and I'm skinny AF.

I really watch what I eat.

Never heard of this potato diet before... Human metabolism is complex!

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by Eric_WVGG »

Penn Jillette is a remarkable guy… three quick stories…

One of my friends used to work backstage in Las Vegas, and got invited to Jilette’s mansion for a party. Besides being obese (at the time), he is also very tall, 6’6”. According to my friend, the entire mansion is built to his scale —- every light switch is 6” higher than you expect. Every counter is high. Every chair is a little too tall. It has the effect of making folks feel a bit crazy.

He wrote a pulp mystery novel called Sock. It is told from he perspective of a detective’s plush sock monkey. The last sentence of every paragraph is a line from a classic rock tune.

He used to write a tech/humor column for PC/Computing magazine back in the nineties. In one column, he described a practical joke wherein one could write an autoexec.bat file that would print a countdown to detonation for airport security dudes who snooped in laptops to find.

(As for the efficacy of this “diet,” most of you are overlooking the fact that, like everything Jillette does, it’s a trick. Some folks just need a bit of psychology to get on the track, that’s fine.)

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by bArray »

The equation is pretty simple, you need to burn more than you consume. So decrease your input or increase your exercise - or both. There's no shortcuts. Speak to a specialist, they tend to know what they are doing.

A few additional points to consider:

* First weight you lose will be water (it's why most of these diet programs make big claims in just a few weeks)

* As you burn fat, you'll need to drink more water and you'll flush out your electrolytes - take supplements

* If you don't workout and eat a certain-ish amount of protein (not too much or less) you'll lose muscle mass instead of fat

* Fasting helps you burn fat rather than food intake

* It's better to consume fats than carbs - if you can get your body into ketosis then you'll burn almost exclusively fats

* Don't underestimate the importance of exercise, even walking (for a heavy person, you're burning a lot more to move the additional mass around)

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by Teknoman117 »

jamil7 wrote: post #41
lmilcin wrote: post #7

This is sad. In so many ways. People, please, do not copy. If your aim is to loose weight you absolutely have to provide a varied, balanced, healthy diet. If nothing else, learning to provide it without calorie restriction is already going to help. Your body has to extract what it needs from less food so the food has to be more rich in quality content. Also eating only carbs will mean opening a can of other problems.…

Agreed. He’s avoided learning anything about food, cooking and nutrition in favour of treating potatoes like coal. Also why is he cooking an individual meal for every family member? Can’t they all just eat something healthy and he eats a smaller portion of it? Or is this common in the US?

My mother went fully vegan after reading Forks over Knives, and she started having to cook two meals as the other household members (I became an adult and moved out years ago) refused to eat vegan.

A year later, mom is now the healthiest of us. Her blood work is perfect and she feels great. Rest of the family is in the same situation we always have been.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by toast0 »

ThePhysicist wrote: post #45

The only thing that will reliably make you lose weight is putting in less energy than your body consumes. To my knowledge all the dietary fads (low-carb, high-carb, all-starch, interval fasting, ...) have failed to produce any measurable effects in scientific studies.

The thing is it's hard to measure the inputs and outputs of your body. And with the same inputs, different bodies will produce different outputs.

The thing about scientific studies is they're generally looking for something that works for everyone. If a small number of people in a small study have good results from a fad diet, and they can stick to it, that's good for them, but the study is going to show no significant difference between control and test.

The key is finding something you can stick to, has good results for you, and doesn't cause other problems. For a lot of people, that's easy, and for some people it's hard.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by renewiltord »

Teknoman117 wrote: post #32
renewiltord wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. Well, that's the catch, isn't it? The meta-technique is where the problem is. "Study hard for the exam. If you can't study, that's the problem". Useless advice to the guy addicted to games. And we know one true answer for effective weight loss: pharmaceuticals. Ludicrous success rate. All of this other stuff is slow. Cheat. Life's too short to play fair.

Are there actually any pharmaceuticals proven to aid weight loss? As far as I knew it was mostly all supplement bullshit to get you to waste thousands of dollars with nothing to show for it. My doctor wants me to look into bariatric surgery but the side effects of that look horrifying long term.

Bariatric surgery is more effective than the pharmaceuticals for long-term weight loss AFAIK. Non-surgical intervention is slow in every form: lifestyle change, pharmaceuticals, all slow.

Not going to name the drugs, sorry, but your doctor will know of them. He knows your situation better, so I'll leave it to him.

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