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Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by jamil7 »

lmilcin wrote: post #7

This is sad. In so many ways. People, please, do not copy. If your aim is to loose weight you absolutely have to provide a varied, balanced, healthy diet. If nothing else, learning to provide it without calorie restriction is already going to help. Your body has to extract what it needs from less food so the food has to be more rich in quality content. Also eating only carbs will mean opening a can of other problems.…

Agreed. He’s avoided learning anything about food, cooking and nutrition in favour of treating potatoes like coal. Also why is he cooking an individual meal for every family member? Can’t they all just eat something healthy and he eats a smaller portion of it? Or is this common in the US?

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Post by peteretep »

Teknoman117 wrote: post #32
renewiltord wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. Well, that's the catch, isn't it? The meta-technique is where the problem is. "Study hard for the exam. If you can't study, that's the problem". Useless advice to the guy addicted to games. And we know one true answer for effective weight loss: pharmaceuticals. Ludicrous success rate. All of this other stuff is slow. Cheat. Life's too short to play fair.

Are there actually any pharmaceuticals proven to aid weight loss? As far as I knew it was mostly all supplement bullshit to get you to waste thousands of dollars with nothing to show for it. My doctor wants me to look into bariatric surgery but the side effects of that look horrifying long term.

Almost all stimulants will work for this but have questionable side effects

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by senectus1 »

disown wrote: post #33

> After two weeks on potatoes, you go to a plant based, vegan lifestyle until you hit your target weight Aren't potatoes "plant based, vegan"? I swear people go from one extreme terrible diet to another. Going from one terrible diet to another is only gonna cause more problems. What is so difficult about eating a balanced meal. Veggies, bread/rice/pasta, meat/fish/poulty, fruits, etc? If you are fat and want to lose…

I know a few "fat" vegans. Its not like their diet is inherently healthy...

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by renewiltord »

ngngngng wrote: post #19

I honestly wish I had an appetite pushing me towards caloric surplus. I have difficulty intaking anything about maintenance calories, so I stay skinny. If I COULD eat a surplus, I would just hit the weights more than I currently do. Compound lifts every day. Throw in some strongman exercises. Being able to eat enough to get fat is a super power, people just don't know where to channel it. This also requires virtually…

Four Burger King Regular Chocolate Shakes will put you above maintenance almost certainly. If you don't want to GOMAD or anything and just want calories, just go do that. You can do it in four eating cycles if you don't have allergies / intolerance. Don't know that pure caloric surplus is worthwhile but there you have it.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by ThePhysicist »

The only thing that will reliably make you lose weight is putting in less energy than your body consumes. To my knowledge all the dietary fads (low-carb, high-carb, all-starch, interval fasting, ...) have failed to produce any measurable effects in scientific studies.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by chrisseaton »

qz2 wrote: post #5

Oh joy another diet fad. They’re just stupid. Just eat a balanced diet with less calories and do exercise. It works. If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. 231lb to 157lb here this year doing just that. 1600 calorie cap and regular exercise, mostly walking. After weight was gone, calories back up to normal and maintain the exercise. I should note that this was achieved by eating less potatoes and fruit and eatin…

> It works. If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating.

If people are tempted to cheat... then the diet isn't working, is it?

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by silly-silly »

otabdeveloper4 wrote: post #16
qz2 wrote: post #5

Oh joy another diet fad. They’re just stupid. Just eat a balanced diet with less calories and do exercise. It works. If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. 231lb to 157lb here this year doing just that. 1600 calorie cap and regular exercise, mostly walking. After weight was gone, calories back up to normal and maintain the exercise. I should note that this was achieved by eating less potatoes and fruit and eatin…

> do exercise Exercise does nothing in losing weight. (If you've seen the people doing physical labor for 10 hours a day, you know they're not necessarily thin.)

Power lifting training easily smashes just over 1k cals a day for me.

If I don't lift, I'll get fat. It definitely has significant effects on metabolism, body fat % and building muscle.

I imagine that most peoples 'exercise' doesn't come close to 1k calories burned though.

Your physical labour people probably consume more calories than they use.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by qz2 »

geowwy wrote: post #38
qz2 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exercise gives you a calorie deficit. It accelerates the loss.

It can help you achieve calorie deficit, but controlling what you eat has a much bigger impact than exercise.

Completely. It’s also about the psychological impact. Building physical strength up through exercise has mental health benefits too which are added to the feedback loop of trying to fix your head, which is the real issue.

I can run a 5k now. Now that has some calorific consequences.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by scaladev »

pizza234 wrote: post #30
stevebmark wrote: post #12

If he sticks with it, it's going to work. All starch diets bring people to healthy weights. I've been doing (mostly) ketosis for years and I still know his all potato diet can work for weight loss. It's just going to be a very… tasteless… few weeks/months. Your poop is going to be unpleasant too. It's always interesting to me that people can succeed on extreme diets like this rather than adjust their lifestyles to wh…

> It's always interesting to me that people can succeed on extreme diets like this rather than adjust their lifestyles to whole food home cooked healthy eating. Like almost no one can tolerate ketosis but they can do extreme diets like day+ fasting or fad diets. They don't actually succeed. They succeed for a short time, because of the motivation rush, and will post about their success; then they will lose the motiva…

As someone who lost 30 kg of excess weight and kept it off for many years, I second this comment. I have a few acquaintances ("friends" as Americans like to call them) who have gone through literally dozens of fad diets over the years, and either never lost a single pound, or gained it all back after they stopped "dieting". Not a single long term success story among them.

When they ask me how I managed to keep the weight off for such a long time, I simply answer "eating what I always have, and calorie counting". Nobody likes to hear that for some reason.

Re: I Am Not Fat

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Post by toast0 »

Teknoman117 wrote: post #32
renewiltord wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If it doesn’t it’s because you’re cheating. Well, that's the catch, isn't it? The meta-technique is where the problem is. "Study hard for the exam. If you can't study, that's the problem". Useless advice to the guy addicted to games. And we know one true answer for effective weight loss: pharmaceuticals. Ludicrous success rate. All of this other stuff is slow. Cheat. Life's too short to play fair.

Are there actually any pharmaceuticals proven to aid weight loss? As far as I knew it was mostly all supplement bullshit to get you to waste thousands of dollars with nothing to show for it. My doctor wants me to look into bariatric surgery but the side effects of that look horrifying long term.

Stimulants and appetite supressants work for some people. Side effects are pretty bad though.

Also smoking is effective for some. Again, bad side effects.

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