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Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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I'd like to share my sleeping practice which I've developed after several years of focusing on it and trying to recreate the pre-industrial (and possibly pre-farming) sleep patterns my ancestors had for millions of years before the last few thousand. Whenever I feel tired, I lay down to rest. Whenever I am sleeping, I allow myself to sleep until I am "fully slept", meaning I can lay there for a while, still physicall…

I always seem to need between 12 and 15 hours sleep, which makes life difficult as I do not fit into the normal 9-5 schedule. I do not understand how people can live off 7 hours of sleep each night. It seems a big advantage though - they have 5 hours more per day.

I met people who slept never more than 5 hours. Each to his own I guess. Some maybe do not need as much but those people probably payed for it later. But if you really need 12-15 hours constantly you might actually have some condition that could be treated.

Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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My circumstances vary. If I'm sharing space with someone, I ask that they don't wake me up unless it's urgent, and that they don't talk to or engage me after I wake up, until I signal that I'm ready. No, I don't go into the office anymore. I live a pauper's existence compared to the past, when I lived like royalty, "earning" enough to pay rent on my own nice apartment in Manhattan, buying new clothes and things regul…

I'm interested in hearing more about you, your life, where you were, why you changed, and how it's affected you. I'm guessing you were in a situation like many people I know (including myself). Well off, couldn't really reasonably ask for much more, yet still chasing happiness like a carrot on a stick. Tired, unmotivated, and forever looking for the next thing to feel better. Diet, sleep, and exercise are all "in che…

I'm a creative person by nature, blessed with being allowed to figure out how things work by taking them apart when I was a child. I didn't hear "No" very often.

Eventually, I found myself working on software maintenance at a bank, a job I become attached to because I thought I wasn't worth much without a degree. I worked there for 5 years.

In corporate, my three role models have been Wally, Costanza, and Gibbons, so I can't say I strained myself too much. I probably spent more time entertaining myself online than proper "working". I was comfortable, and for a while I thought I'd beat the system. I was certainly better off than many who struggle daily.

I worked on CMBS, from the flush days pre-2007, through the crisis, and into times of slow attrition and incremental cost-cutting. Eventually, I was laid off.

I scrambled to find another job, was fired after a month or two for regular and unrepentant tardiness, and then got another one and stayed there for about 3/4 of a year until being laid off. I rode out six months on unemployment, also eating through my savings.

I realized that with five years at the bank on my resume, it will be much easier to find another job, so I did that. I went on a spree of under-a-year stints at different companies, enjoying the first month honeymoon, integration and learning phase, leaving when I became bored.

At this point, I could find a new job before leaving the old one, and my work was good enough that there were no hard feelings. Regardless of how long I worked somewhere, I contributed and was a net positive.

After getting one small raise at the bank over five years, I doubled my salary in three. I was so happy to tell my family that I broke the six figures mark, and they were proud of me.

It sounds good on paper, but here is the problem. Of all the different places I worked "professionally" in 20 years, there is maybe one or two projects that are still in use. Most of what I'd worked on is gone forever, there's probably not a copy left anywhere. Of the systems that are still in use, they're used by a handful of people, and will never see the "light of day" outside of their cellar.

Of all the systems I've worked on, I can only think of one which actually contributed something positive to the world. Most of them were basically negative karma for me.

I played a small part in selling unsound financial instruments, which ruined many people, and left many without a house to live in. I helped integrate advertising into webpages, which helped invade people's privacy and reduce the quality of their Web experience. I worked on countless advertising campaigns, which amounted to helping convince my fellow humans to spend their precious resources on things which would probably harm them, like sugar delivery products and oil drilling.

But the worst of it was that my time was largely out of my control, under the control of someone else. Even if I did absolutely no work at the office and spent all my time browsing [redacted], I was still obligated to get up at a certain time, show up and spend the better portion of a day there, dress a certain way, etc.

Eventually, I realized that this was unsustainable, so I started unsubscribing from those things one by one. One of the first things I unsubscribed from was paying monthly rent. This allowed me to unsubscribe from having to work full-time. I think unsubscribed from many other things, one at a time.

I learned that if you make it a priority, and only change one small thing at a time, there is little to fear and much to gain. Not only that, but my life became infinitely richer and more interesting.

One of the most incredible changes I've experienced is that I no longer get that feeling of, "wow, that was 3 years ago? feels just like yesterday... time flies". In fact, I have the opposite experience often, when I think, "wow, it feels like that was 3 years ago, but it's only been a couple of weeks".

I attribute this to the amount of new and unique experiences I have every day, which used to be close to zero, and is now several per day.

I might come back and write more, but I have to go for now. Thank you for asking your question, and I hope this helps.

One more thing: If you consider the quantum nature of our Universe, and the power of observation and intention, you will begin to see just how powerful your intention is, especially when you intend well, and work to improve your karma every day. There's a lot more to our Universe than today's science admits, it's tuned for love and enjoyment, savoring, and if you focus your attention, incredible, magical things will begin to manifest. I say this as a clear-minded computer programmer and systems maintainer who's spent most of my life figuring out how systems work and experimenting with them.

Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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Around the age of 17 I used to regularly go to bed late so I could socialise, but I often had to be up at 8-9am for college / university / work. This meant I developed a fairly unhealthy sleep pattern and would often only get 6 hours of sleep a night. 10 years on and although I don't stay up to socialise anymore, I still really struggling to get enough sleep. No matter how tired I am throughout the day my mind seems…

https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/fall-asleep-fast/

That works wonders for me. You won't fall asleep in less than two minutes the first time you do it, but after doing it for two weeks, you will.

Relaxing the muscles is very important to be able to fall asleep. Pay attention to the facial muscles and those of the eyes. To clear my mind of distracying thoughts I count from 120 to 0. These days I seldom reach 100 before I'm asleep.

You might be skeptical that the process works as stated in the article, as I was, but after you see that the process works reliably you also get the benefit of less anxiety about being able to fall asleep.

It is also very important to check your 25-OH Vit D serum levels. Watch the interview with Dr. Stasha Gominak about the relation between vit D and sleep that was posted recently.

Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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hyper-optimized distractions are one of our new challenges we face today as attentional beings. hyper-mindfulness and hyper-awareness is one of the best tools I've found to overcome them.

Though compare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperfocus

Yeah...

I think it's laughable, preposterous to call focus and flow a "disorder."

Whoever wants to call me being able to focus on a task at hand a disorder can stuff it up their butt.

Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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Edit: I want to preface this by saying that I'm not writing off modern medicine, nor post-modern medicine, nor saying that you should avoid doctors altogether. Just that it's a powerful and thus dangerous tool, and that you should ideally find a doctor you trust and then maintain contact with them, probably by visiting them regularly, now that I think about it, and maybe occasionally giving them a nice gift. :) I adv…

I believe the problem with doctors is, that they a) usually do not have much time for each patient to really do a whole body analysis and b) that the idea of viewing the body as a whole and not seperated parts like a machine still has not made their way fully into all of them yet

You're right on both counts.

Doctors are encouraged to systematize and commoditize their "care", and few are able to stand up to the pressure.

The few who are worth treasuring and showering with support.

Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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When I'm tired my brain tricks me into going back to sleep, so I guess you are just tired. If you are sleeping more then 8 hours and still feel tired you might have bad sleep quality.

I feel it's the dreaming which makes me tired, I feel exhausted whenever I am able to remember my dreams. I usually feel pretty good if I don't remember any dream after waking up(Assuming they never happened). Now that I think more of it, I agree it might be my lack of sleep quality which makes me tired and maybe places/offsets the REM sleep at odd times so I am able to remember the dreams. My circadian rhythm is def…

Personally I dont / cant remember my dreams. I very rarely have one, sort of like once every few years, but when I do, I wake up, try to think about it, but it was gone within 1 min. So one time I voice-record everything with my iPhone the moment I was awake.... when I replay it nothing make sense, and there were lots of details missing. Basically I couldn't remember a thing. But when ever dreaming happens it is very tiring. As if like your brain had no time to rest, but it is a very very rare thing to me.

One of my friend has similar problem to yours, sort of like dreaming every night. One of the few thing she find very useful now is to drink a little bit of Alcohol / Red Wine before she sleeps, or do Sports that actually makes you sweat during the day. It seems your mind will spend all the energy on repairing your body then bothering to dream about something.

Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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If I don’t set an alarm I always wake up much earlier, and grab my phone in fear that it’s too late. Setting an alarm at a very reasonable tim (ie >8h after going to bed) helps me sleep calmly, knowing that I will not oversleep. It’s interesting how different minds work. :)

I have the opposite problem. I have to sleep with a watch. Otherwise if I wake up and can't check how much time I have left to sleep, I get anxious that the alarm is about to go off and I can't get back to sleep.

they make clocks that project the time on the ceiling, I can't live without mine

Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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I'd like to share my sleeping practice which I've developed after several years of focusing on it and trying to recreate the pre-industrial (and possibly pre-farming) sleep patterns my ancestors had for millions of years before the last few thousand. Whenever I feel tired, I lay down to rest. Whenever I am sleeping, I allow myself to sleep until I am "fully slept", meaning I can lay there for a while, still physicall…

What are your other practices, I love this pre-industrial modality

Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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I'd like to share my sleeping practice which I've developed after several years of focusing on it and trying to recreate the pre-industrial (and possibly pre-farming) sleep patterns my ancestors had for millions of years before the last few thousand. Whenever I feel tired, I lay down to rest. Whenever I am sleeping, I allow myself to sleep until I am "fully slept", meaning I can lay there for a while, still physicall…

I used to think that our body know better. But I realise it doesn't do what is better but rather what it is used to do.

I felt I had to eat sweets frequently, drink coca-coca everyday and 3 meals a day etc. My body felt terrible when I didn't. I stopped listed to what my body wanted and consciously stop those things. First week it was really painful. Second week I got used to. Third week I completely changed. Now I have to force myself do eat sweets, drink soda or having so many meals a day.

I still listen my body about drink water and not sure if I should really listen it when it comes to sleep.

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