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Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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It's just an overall sense of being able to remember things, think several consecutive thoughts through, clarity when programming, ability to stay attentive and on track, social ability, and so on. Also, I used to be very depressed all the time, and now it rarely happens. I've experienced many different layers of both cognitive health and cognitive impairment, and I also practice mindfulness, so I am able to assess t…

And to what do you attribute these changes? It sounds like changing your sleep was THE factor? Or were there other things? I know people who have dramatically changed their diet, and espoused similar life changing revelations... Almost word for word, to what you're describing.

Sleep is probably the largest factor. There are a few others.

The second most impactful factor for me has been meditation and general spiritual development. I have conditioned myself to practice attention to breath meditation several times per day for anywhere from half a minute to several minutes.

Whenever I notice myself stressed, annoyed, waiting, rushing, indecisive, and in other circumstances where mental clarity would help, I return my attention to breath. I've been practicing this for several years, and have experienced tremendous benefits.

For example, I have been able to largely unwire my annoyance reaction. I just don't become annoyed at things anymore. Crying babies, repetitive sounds, squeaky noises, arrogant or childish people, waiting for someone who's late, running late myself, and so on. It just doesn't bother me, no more than the Earth rotating around its axis.

Of course, if a program steals focus or a site is forcing me to use JS, or my [redacted] news feed is in some random fucking indecipherable sort order, it still annoys me. But that's my passion domain, and I project all those things as potentially happening in my software if I'm not careful, so I let it happen as a way of keeping myself sharp and vigilant.

Diet-wise, I avoid processed food and tobacco, which are my addictions. I've never been much of a drinker, but I've cut alcohol out almost entirely, even the occasional sip of vodka or half a bottle of beer I used to have. I attended several AA meetings recently, and it was a clarifying and eye-opening experience, and I just can't see alcohol the same way anymore.

I still love weed, but no longer regularly. I used to be a wake and bake, all day every day, no such thing as too much weed smoker.

Based on my prior psychedelic experience, I think I could have achieved many of these changes much quicker with the occasional acid trip, but I haven't found the right set and setting in a while.

Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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I'd like to share my sleeping practice which I've developed after several years of focusing on it and trying to recreate the pre-industrial (and possibly pre-farming) sleep patterns my ancestors had for millions of years before the last few thousand. Whenever I feel tired, I lay down to rest. Whenever I am sleeping, I allow myself to sleep until I am "fully slept", meaning I can lay there for a while, still physicall…

> Of course, I have several other practices to thank for this, in addition to the sleep.

I would like to hear these other practices as well. I think your sleep practices are sound and derived from a solid theoretical basis.

Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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This is similar to my "drink when you're thirsty" method for remaining hydrated. There's a whole industry built on the premise that we're unable to regulate our own water intake without the help of apps and special water bottles. I've not found that to be the case myself.

Yeah, the body has a mechanism to tell us when it needs water. You don't pee when you don't feel the urge to, so I don't drink water when I don't feel the urge to in most cases. I drink some when I first wake up just so I don't forget to drink some, and if I'm exercising I drink a lot

I've heard many wise teachers advise drinking a glass or two of clean water in the morning, so you're on the right track.

On the subject of peeing, I've come to the conclusion that it's unhealthy to hold it in more than on the rare occasion, and I aim to pee within a few seconds of having the urge.

Actually, I believe it should be a human right to pee within 30 seconds of wanting to, and I'll do it, too.

Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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You are correct, though at some point we figured out how to carry it, stay close to it, and establish access. I've been told by a few wise people to wait to drink until I'm done trekking, by the way. I don't think we should blindly do anything, and abandonining millions of years of evolution and wisdom especially.

> I've been told by a few wise people to wait to drink until I'm done trekking, by the way. I'm not sure what distance we are talking about but doing any kind of sport (even light exercise) you should start to drink after at most 1 hour. If drinking wasn't necessary, long distance runners or athletes of other endurance sports wouldn't drink. You need to stay hydrated or you'll face fatigue, muscle problems and genera…

I'm talking about a several-hour moderate difficulty hike without running or high-intensity exercise, which you started in a state of adequate hydration.

I've tried out several different approaches many times, and the best I've learned is to wait to drink when resting, no sipping in between.

I am not a doctor and this is not medical advice. YMMV.

Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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I'd like to share my sleeping practice which I've developed after several years of focusing on it and trying to recreate the pre-industrial (and possibly pre-farming) sleep patterns my ancestors had for millions of years before the last few thousand. Whenever I feel tired, I lay down to rest. Whenever I am sleeping, I allow myself to sleep until I am "fully slept", meaning I can lay there for a while, still physicall…

> 24h sleep I advise anyone reading this and experiencing similar sleep pattern or fatigue to visit their doctor. This could be anything from diabetes, iron difeciency, Vitamin D difeciancy, and whole other things that could be wrong. Please don't use someone's else experience as the whole truth.

I believe you should visit a doctor only if this happens at least with some pattern.

If you sleep 24 hours twice a year and all other time you sleep 7-9 - it is a reason to see a doctor?

Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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> 24h sleep I advise anyone reading this and experiencing similar sleep pattern or fatigue to visit their doctor. This could be anything from diabetes, iron difeciency, Vitamin D difeciancy, and whole other things that could be wrong. Please don't use someone's else experience as the whole truth.

Edit: I want to preface this by saying that I'm not writing off modern medicine, nor post-modern medicine, nor saying that you should avoid doctors altogether. Just that it's a powerful and thus dangerous tool, and that you should ideally find a doctor you trust and then maintain contact with them, probably by visiting them regularly, now that I think about it, and maybe occasionally giving them a nice gift. :) I adv…

Multiple dentists found multiple "problems" with my teeths (without me ever complaining).

Fortunately for me, their diagnoses did not overlap with other dentists.

Several years later of me doing nothing (except regular dental cleaning) - I am still comfortable with my teeth.

Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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I have a very weird problem/issue, maybe someone can help. In my school days I used to maintain a dream diary, where I would note down every dream I had after waking up. I stopped doing that when I got into college, but dreams never stopped and I never stopped analysing and trying to remember the dreams. Fast forward to present time (10 years from school), whenever I want to wake up i.e. after 6-7 hours of sleep I ca…

My read of this is that you've conditioned yourself to wake up mid-REM. This can't be great for you, and probably explains why you're groggy and half-sleepy during those wakeups. I'd consult a sleep specialist to see what can be done about this.

Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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post #167

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> 24h sleep I advise anyone reading this and experiencing similar sleep pattern or fatigue to visit their doctor. This could be anything from diabetes, iron difeciency, Vitamin D difeciancy, and whole other things that could be wrong. Please don't use someone's else experience as the whole truth.

Edit: I want to preface this by saying that I'm not writing off modern medicine, nor post-modern medicine, nor saying that you should avoid doctors altogether. Just that it's a powerful and thus dangerous tool, and that you should ideally find a doctor you trust and then maintain contact with them, probably by visiting them regularly, now that I think about it, and maybe occasionally giving them a nice gift. :) I adv…

I believe the problem with doctors is, that they a) usually do not have much time for each patient to really do a whole body analysis and b) that the idea of viewing the body as a whole and not seperated parts like a machine still has not made their way fully into all of them yet

Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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I'd like to share my sleeping practice which I've developed after several years of focusing on it and trying to recreate the pre-industrial (and possibly pre-farming) sleep patterns my ancestors had for millions of years before the last few thousand. Whenever I feel tired, I lay down to rest. Whenever I am sleeping, I allow myself to sleep until I am "fully slept", meaning I can lay there for a while, still physicall…

> A couple of times I think I was coming down with something, I slept for more than 24 hours with only pee breaks. And I woke up feeling fresh as a cucumber, as they say. I don't really take sleeping that seriously in general, but I used to get sick pretty frequently (sick enough to not work, a couple times a year). Nowadays I have a routine, and it's not so different: if I feel a tiny bit sick, I go home, lie in bed…

"I also avoid any source of stress."

This very much.

And I go crazy lying in bed for long, so for me I rather find a quiet spot in nature in the sun (or shade), even if I am quite sick. A river is perfect. And then just sit or lie for hours.

But I live close to wild nature, so I could not do this if I would have to drive through some rush hour to get there.

Re: Sleep duration is associated with brain structure and cognitive performance

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I'd like to share my sleeping practice which I've developed after several years of focusing on it and trying to recreate the pre-industrial (and possibly pre-farming) sleep patterns my ancestors had for millions of years before the last few thousand. Whenever I feel tired, I lay down to rest. Whenever I am sleeping, I allow myself to sleep until I am "fully slept", meaning I can lay there for a while, still physicall…

Do you have children? If yes, how on earth is this doable?

I have small children and I try to live and sleep the same style. Which is of course now much harder, but it still somewhat works with taking shifts with the mother.

I still lack sleep though, but I heard this is normal with small kids...

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