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Re: Show HN: I Rebuilt MySpace from 2007

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What tech stack did you end up using for the backend?

for it to be legitimate you need to use ColdFusion and then do a half assed port to .net.

For proper early 2000s nostalgia, I reckon the backend should actually be Apache mod_perl, with the ".cfm" extension script aliased to Perl CGI scripts because management tell everybody "it's running on Adobe!"...

Re: Show HN: I Rebuilt MySpace from 2007

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Someone's soon going to recreate the facebook! Is it just me or nobody realize that the likes of MySpace started the downfall of the original Internet before it became "social media"? Nostalgia of a simple web page is fine (and this is a nice implementation no doubt), but why recreate something that leads to something that is predictable? Instead, recreate usenet with better privacy and mobile adoption. Usenet is wha…

Myspace was great. It was pseudonymous, spent precisely no time trying to hunt down and delete opinions or nudity, and didn't have much of an opinion about how you kept your page.

Social networks could ideally be usenet without an eternal September (which is the actual thing that killed it.) You grant trust to your friends, a little less trust to your friends' friends, and a lot less trust to their friends and strangers. Without a real name policy, you can maintain different identities as different pages and can have a different account to be friends with your aunt. With very little cultivation, you can make sure everything you read is stimulating, and very little is annoying. The problem with this model is that the business of the internet is to annoy you, and the first thing you would cut if you had the ability to cut would be the messages that the platform is paid to subject you to.

Re: Show HN: I Rebuilt MySpace from 2007

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Good idea. I think there’s a lot of room for some kind of internet social network that gives you a space for a custom profile, chatting with friends about anything, no algorithms dictating what you see, no heavy handed moderation, etc. wish you success

I live and breathe on the internet and have never been moderated once, even freely expressing myself, insulting people who deserve it, etc. My point here is that if you think the current social media options have "heavy handed" moderation, you're probably the problem, not them.

You may just have Orthodoxy privilege:

http://www.paulgraham.com/orth.html

or in other words, if you've never had and issues with moderation, you might not ever take risks or challenges with your opinions.

Re: Show HN: I Rebuilt MySpace from 2007

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for it to be legitimate you need to use ColdFusion and then do a half assed port to .net.

For proper early 2000s nostalgia, I reckon the backend should actually be Apache mod_perl, with the ".cfm" extension script aliased to Perl CGI scripts because management tell everybody "it's running on Adobe!"...

Aah yes, mod_perl. That brings back memories.

Re: Show HN: I Rebuilt MySpace from 2007

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The point is that originalism relies on the idea that the Constitution was a nearly flawless document worth preserving in its original form with a couple adjustments, where in reality it was a deeply, deeply flawed document that has been patched repeatedly to a workable state but still has serious shortcomings.

That is blatantly false, originalism is relying on both the Constitution + associated Constitutional Amendments. As OP mentioned, the latter are not set in stone.

> That is blatantly false

You're missing my point. And I don't care right now.

Re: Show HN: I Rebuilt MySpace from 2007

#168

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how did you grab that

enable showdead in your profile

wow thanks! that makes me rethink about every potentially doxing or regrettable comment I may make, knowing there is no such thing as deleting my comment.

Re: Show HN: I Rebuilt MySpace from 2007

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live and breathe on the internet and have never been moderated once, even freely expressing myself, insulting people who deserve it, etc. My point here is that if you think the current social media options have "heavy handed" moderation, you're probably the problem, not them.

I was recently moderated for the first time in my (fairly long) life by a social media site. I complained, and they restored it, but it was jarring. My general impression is that times they are a'changin' WRT moderation on the interwebs.

The Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory holds up very strongly under observation:

https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19

Small communities can sometimes survive without too much moderation, where the consequences of being shunned are enough to keep people who want to participate mostly civil to each other. But "success" in terms of rapid user base growth inevitably leads to enough members who are prepared to be uncivil to each other, at which stage the members who desire a civil discourse to either demand moderation or to leave it to become a youtube-comments style cesspit.

It's not a technical problem, it's a people problem. Technology just amplifies the problem enormously, it doesn't _cause_ it. Jerks don't last long at small local bars, because the locals set the tone and shun people who don't behave according to local norms. Large beer barns, concert venues, or festivals largely cannot rely on local norms and custom, or for regulars to guide newcomers to understanding and appropriate behaviour. And there will _always_ be some people who are jerks, or who's personal understanding of acceptable behaviour differs from the group norm. In the real world they hopefully find "their people" and their places. People who want to behave like outlaw bikers hang out in biker bars, not piano jazz clubs. If you want to build a social media site, you need to realise that eventually someone from 4chan who's idea of fun is trolling normies is gonna show up, and if the place looks "fun" to him, he can put out a call to hundreds of his friends to come show up too. You need to have a plan to deal with that before it happens, if you have a vision for your site that isn't /b/ To some people, that's gonna look like "overly heavy moderation" even if you do it right.

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