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Ruffle – A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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Re: Ruffle – A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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What's Newgrounds affiliation with Ruffle? Did they create it? To test it out: https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/113883 No flash player required. Works in HTML 5. Loaded slow though. There's a cool song in it: Splashdown - So Ha Is Albino Blacksheep in on the ruffle.rs stuff? Remember them? They were always pioneering CSS stuff back in the 2000's.

I think Mike from Newgrounds is the lead developer on the project, or at least the guy who created it.

Check ruffle githubpage for orginal creator. Mike is sponsoring this development, but not developing the project.

Re: Ruffle – A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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> but it's still not legal to use if you haven't bought an original copy But they no longer sell it anyway? And they don't say any of that on that page. If they really wanted to make sure only those who bought it previously got those keys, they'd require logging in with an account you bought it with to see that page.

I'm not sure how does that work legally. For example you can still download the installer directly from them [0] and it's an universal one. If you don't have a key it works in trial mode, if you do have one you can unlock the full version. http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flash/esd/flashmx2004_tri...

You can download the installer from an Adobe server, and Adobe also provides the key to activate it, with no payment or authentication required. Nowhere does it say you need to have paid for it back when they sold it. In my opinion, this means they're officially giving it away for free. FWIW you could also consider it abandonware because, again, it's not sold any more so you can't pay for it even if you wanted to.

Re: Ruffle – A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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It's even worse than I remember. So, a very b2b very proprietary product. I mean, their website even has pictures of random smiling people and a bunch of logos of random companies. Most everything leads to "contact us". Technical details are sparse. Can't get more b2b than this. Can't see how this can even begin to approach content preservation we're talking about here.

Seems especially silly as there’s a real business use case here, for people who made apps using Flex. Not sure how many companies actually still depend on that but it was definitely a thing for a while there. Surely much better to focus on that.

They could as well make use of that underlying x86 emulation technology to run ActiveX components and sell it to those companies that still rely on them in their internal systems — I'm sure there still are such companies.

Re: Ruffle – A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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Those sample files.. bring back memories. I think we took a step backwards in serving vector art/animation on the web. When YouTube replaced Flash, we've probably wasted petabytes of bandwidth serving rasterized content when Flash or a similar format would have been much more effective.

Adobe Animate, which is basically just Adobe Flash with a different name, can export htm5 for the web. I haven’t used it extensively, but it seems to work well.

Re: Ruffle – A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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Tried Super Mario Crossover and unfortunately it freezes at the first screen, but it gives me hope that some day I can play it again on a modern browser.

If you just want to play the game, consider using Flash Projector, a standalone Adobe program (separate from the browser) which will open and play swf files.

Re: Ruffle – A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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A standard at least for encoding vector animation would be nice. Also needs to be not as bulky as having svg frame per frame, etc...

I have a similar problem in mind, it could be an SVG served in a web browser, and then instead of frames you would have an event series of updates, kind of like MIDI does for music: turns certain notes on and off at certain times. So I could have a timestamped list of updates to apply to the SVG (move to x / y coordinate, apply this filter, append these childNodes) -- just use CSS transition to interpolate the moveme…

I've never authored SVGs so this might be a dumb question, but couldn't you use CSS keyframe animations for this? You wouldn't get streaming, but what about the rest?

Re: Ruffle – A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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> but it's still not legal to use if you haven't bought an original copy But they no longer sell it anyway? And they don't say any of that on that page. If they really wanted to make sure only those who bought it previously got those keys, they'd require logging in with an account you bought it with to see that page.

I'm not sure how does that work legally. For example you can still download the installer directly from them [0] and it's an universal one. If you don't have a key it works in trial mode, if you do have one you can unlock the full version. http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flash/esd/flashmx2004_tri...

Are you really that worried that Adobe will come after you for illegally using 2004 era software that they've abandoned?

Re: Ruffle – A Flash Player emulator written in Rust

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> but it's still not legal to use if you haven't bought an original copy But they no longer sell it anyway? And they don't say any of that on that page. If they really wanted to make sure only those who bought it previously got those keys, they'd require logging in with an account you bought it with to see that page.

I'm not sure how does that work legally. For example you can still download the installer directly from them [0] and it's an universal one. If you don't have a key it works in trial mode, if you do have one you can unlock the full version. http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flash/esd/flashmx2004_tri...

What law would be violated if you download software from Adobe and use the activation key they've provided to activate it? That's normally how you get software legally.
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