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Post by pkulak » Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 5:15 AM UTC

dreamcompiler wrote: post #167

tempestn wrote: post #124

I must say, I don't understand the disable JS movement. I browse with JS on, and uBlock Origin to block ads. It's rare that I have any javascript-related problems in my web browsing. On the other hand, I definitely use a number of sites that rely on javascript for useful purposes. If you're worried about tracking, you can block ads and tracking scripts without disabling javascript. If you're worried about viruses, we…

On a great many web sites I have to spend the first 60 seconds on the site clicking on "X" boxes in popups to make them go away. In many cases there are actually several layers of popups obscuring the content, and some are delayed so they only pop up after you start reading the content. No I do not want to subscribe to your mailing list. No I don't want to take your survey. No I do not want to "chat" with your bot-pr…

Post by vorticalbox » Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 5:37 AM UTC

steelbrain wrote: post #201

square_usual wrote: post #190

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It's also written in Rust for performance.

I don't understand this way of thinking. Rust isn't magically fast. You can use most languages to write both performant and lazy code. Also just so you know, Brave isn't "written" in Rust alone, it is a big software with a lot of parts, including but not limited to a rendering engine, a JS VM and a WASM engine. The Rust part at most (unconfirmed) would be the glue that connects them together, and I doubt that's where…

Post by edgyquant » Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 5:40 AM UTC

billyhoffman wrote: post #196

zamalek wrote: post #133

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> If you're worried about viruses [...] Not to mention that a host of vulnerabilities were image related a few years back (one of the original rookits exploited a TGA bug). > uBlock Origin Honestly, this is the antivirus of the web. I helped my niece set up my old computer for Minecraft today, and she was explaining how her friend had installed viruses (adware, really) 3 times. Every one of those instances was caused…

> one of the original root kits exploited a TGA bug As a lover of old image formats and the security issues they can cause* this sounds fascinating, but some quick google searches don’t seem to surface what you are referencing. Can you share any more details? * I once fell into discovering a memory disclosure flaw with Firefox and XBM images

Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 » Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 5:48 AM UTC

jachee wrote: post #182

kordlessagain wrote: post #179

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> Javascript is a privacy and security nightmare. AFAIK, JavaScript the language has neither privacy nor security issues of "nightmare" level. > It's almost equivalent to downloading and silently executing untrusted code on your machine. No it's not. The code is run in a VM, which is run in a browser. So, the code is limited in doing things to the browser, which itself is limited in what it can do to your computer (f…

My understanding is that JavaScript is the primary mechanism used in browser fingerprinting and cross-site user tracking/"analytics". Isn't that a rather large privacy and (personal, if not specifically "cyber") security risk?

Post by slmjkdbtl » Sun, Nov 29, 2020, 5:52 AM UTC

enw wrote: post #147

I’d love to get rid of JS for my personal sites, but I know of no clean and simple way to render dynamic content otherwise. Server-side rendering seems a bit messy. I want a clean REST API separate from the UI. How can I generate pages with dynamic content easily? Ideally with absolute minimal dependencies.