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Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Re: Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Post by gameswithgo »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #111
gameswithgo wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One chain ring is the new thing these days, with 11+ cog cassettes. Lack of aero shape probably facilitates putting the battery in there. Though they could do the handle bars and seat stays at least.

1x is a cost reduction measure disguised as a "new thing". Same price - less components = more profit.

When I was racing last (cat 3) the cost was higher on road bikes! Don't know if it still is. It is still a preferable setup if you don't need the range of gearing if a double. Front derailleurs are are common point of failure and noise and you make it all go away. (with either the proper sort of front chainring or a clutched derailleur in the rear to make sure the chain stay son)

Drop weight and improve aero a bit too.

Re: Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Post by sunstone »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #60
_verandaguy wrote: post #5

Coming from conventional bikes, I don't understand who this is for. Carbon fibre frames are prohibitively expensive and the market for them serves very involved, often professional or semi-pro cyclists whose performance bottlenecks are imposed by the bike instead of themselves. Ditto for some of the other details on the bike, like the medium-dish carbon rims — all for the sake of weight savings and aerodynamics (sinc…

E-bikes are perhaps the most misunderstood category of bike products right now. Traditional bikers have underestimated demand for e-bikes at every step of the way for one reason: Traditional biking has a massive selection bias effect that excludes anyone who isn’t in great physical shape. The deeper you are into cycling, the more homogenous your perception of what constitutes a biker. You’re not going to see average…

The implications of e-bikes go deeper than one might think. Consider that urban areas are entirely designed around the fact that fossil fuel transportation creates a lot of poisonous emissions. Once fossil fuel transportation is removed from city centers streets can be covered in poor weather, parking can be enclosed, street capacity can be multiplied by several times if e-bikes are popular. There are a lot of wins under this scenario.

Re: Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Post by interestica »

dmurray wrote: post #150
tedivm wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you and op are missing the point though. This is a light weight ebike! Obviously it's not as light weight as a professional bike (or like any without a battery), but this cuts weight everywhere it can and still has a 45 mile range (plus an extended battery you can add on to extend the range). On top of that people are already spending thousands of dollars on ebikes- this really isn't that much more expensive…

Yes, the point is to be a light weight e-bike, but still, why? Make it out of steel or aluminium, making the frame 1 kg heavier, perhaps that costs you another 200g in the battery and motor to drive the same power. Aluminium and steel are better materials than CF in every way except weight - or if not, I'd like to hear why! The 1-2 kg weight savings is useful if you need to carry your bike up the stairs to your top f…

Have you ever seen a car with a spoiler? Do you think any modern consumer-directed car needs a spoiler? I think there is certainly a market that is willing to pay for the 'costume' upgrades. And there needs to be certain credibility behind it - a show off factor ("hey, check how light this is.") These bikes can be status symbols. There's a value in 'potential utility'. Also....people will pay premiums for certain phone colours.

Re: Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Post by davidw »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #87
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

E-bikes are perhaps the most misunderstood category of bike products right now. Traditional bikers have underestimated demand for e-bikes at every step of the way for one reason: Traditional biking has a massive selection bias effect that excludes anyone who isn’t in great physical shape. The deeper you are into cycling, the more homogenous your perception of what constitutes a biker. You’re not going to see average…

I think you’re missing his point. He wasn’t saying e-bikes were bad or pointless, he was saying that the design decisions made around this bike don’t make sense for an e-bike commuter or a performance racer or basically anyone. I’m similarly confused.

Yeah, I saw a bunch of eBikes in use last time I was in Italy. They're heavier clunkers where 5/10 miles is a good enough range.

Re: Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Post by learnstats2 »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #60
_verandaguy wrote: post #5

Coming from conventional bikes, I don't understand who this is for. Carbon fibre frames are prohibitively expensive and the market for them serves very involved, often professional or semi-pro cyclists whose performance bottlenecks are imposed by the bike instead of themselves. Ditto for some of the other details on the bike, like the medium-dish carbon rims — all for the sake of weight savings and aerodynamics (sinc…

E-bikes are perhaps the most misunderstood category of bike products right now. Traditional bikers have underestimated demand for e-bikes at every step of the way for one reason: Traditional biking has a massive selection bias effect that excludes anyone who isn’t in great physical shape. The deeper you are into cycling, the more homogenous your perception of what constitutes a biker. You’re not going to see average…

I read that more than half of new bikes sold in the Netherlands (around half a million per year) are e-bikes.

It has become more difficult to underestimate the popularity of e-bikes, now that I get overtaken by a steady stream of pensioners every time there is a slight uphill.

Re: Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Post by maelito »

I'm building a website to document a gravel bike build, including links to buy the parts, price, weight, tips.

I would be happy to know if this kind of open specs for bike builds exist already.

It's far from solid and in French for now, sorry.

https://github.com/laem/velolibre

The bike components are described in YAML.

https://github.com/laem/velolibre/blob/master/vélos/1.yaml

Re: Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Post by vaccinator »

scoopdewoop wrote: post #15
chrismorgan wrote: post #6

A remark from a web developer on the implementation of this site: On my laptop, scrolling by touch, when I reach the image immediately above the colours section, I can’t easily go any further, because the carousel thingy that takes up most of the screen has schnaffled touch actions, and is only translating them into horizontal scrolling of that component, even if my finger is moving perfectly vertically. This is a ba…

FWIW, lots of web devs here. Thats why this is in the guidelines: Please don't complain about website formatting, back-button breakage, and similar annoyances. They're too common to be interesting. Exception: when the author is present. Then friendly feedback might be helpful.

Looks like the author is present...

Re: Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Post by woah »

_verandaguy wrote: post #5

Coming from conventional bikes, I don't understand who this is for. Carbon fibre frames are prohibitively expensive and the market for them serves very involved, often professional or semi-pro cyclists whose performance bottlenecks are imposed by the bike instead of themselves. Ditto for some of the other details on the bike, like the medium-dish carbon rims — all for the sake of weight savings and aerodynamics (sinc…

Why is it crazy that someone would spend $4500 on something they commute with every day? I mean, it might cost that much just to upgrade the seats and the stereo in a car.
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