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If China could make cheese as good as European cheese, they would. PDO is not currently stopping them.
It is, because they would be unable to sell it in the first world.
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> I guess the reason why the Italian consortium sent this (otherwise stupid) cease-and-desist to this poor Australian guy, is because they're desperately trying to defend the real stuff from the fakes. It's not "otherwise stupid" it _is_ stupid. They should be going after the counterfeiters not someone who is both trying to educate people on making as authentic a cheese as possible while simultaneously making very cl…
> That has _nothing_ to do with this youtuber. In your view. Not in mine. > trying to educate people on making as authentic a cheese as possible That's the problem. It's never going to be authentic. These kind of cheeses are not just about a recipe; they're also about the ingredients. I don't recall the specific details for grana padano, but to give you an example, the "prosciutto di Parma" is made from pigs who eat…
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The EU PDO scheme conflates geographic origin and a particular type of product in a way that is transparently protectionist and silly. When people say "feta cheese" or "american cheese", they're not asking for "made in Feta cheese" or "made in America cheese". They're asking for a particular flavor profile and cooking behavior, and possibly a specific method of manufacture. There is no particular reason why you can't…
Feta is not a region in Greece. Feta is a type of cheese that has the whole of Greece as the terroir. It’s also made with sheep and goat milk and the cow-based cheese that resembles it (white cheese, salad cheese etc) just doesn’t compare taste wise. With all that said, if you see (in the EU) something being called Feta, you immediately know what it’s made of and that it’s made in Greece.
Regardless, my argument is not "you should be able to call cow's milk feta cheese", it's "labeling standards should not require a product to be made in a certain place". A strict labeling standard that said "feta has to be made from sheep or goat's milk" is perfectly defensible. One that says "it has to be made in a specific country" isn't.
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I expect to see a video on "How to make edible dairy product that is absolutely nothing like Grana Padano" by the weekend.
“The Makers of Grana Padano do NOT Want You to See This!!!”
The original video in question, however, is still getting taken down.
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That's interesting. Wonder if it'd be feasible to come up with an equivalent of Yakult, but to give cows to nuke/kill-off unfriendly bacteria like Clostridium?
It already exists, it's called giving cows the right feed, and it has been done in Italy since the early middle ages. Quality requires effort, and the whole problem arises from Grana Padano producers being stingy and wanting to reuse byproducts of corn production instead of growing or buying the right types of grass.
Hmmm. That's the equivalent of saying "Giving people a good diet is the same as Yakult". :(
Not really what I was going for. ;)
I'd guess most of you don't know that "parmesan" (in the US, and elsewhere) is nothing like the real "parmigiano reggiano". It's tens of times cheaper to produce, and I'd venture to say that it might as well be several times less healthy than the original. Same thing for "grana padano". If you don't know anything about wood pulp in the parmesan, or fake olive oil, I suggest you read "real food, fake food" [0]. It ope…
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But that's exactly my point. I hear people talking about bottles of 'Moet', not champagne. I've been given or bought several Moet-Chandon bottles over the years, and I would not be able to tell you with certainty whether they were filled with wine from the Champagne region. Anecdotal for sure. I would also argue that you could use any reasonably French sounding place name, 'Trois-Rivières' and people would make assum…
"Trois-Rivières" does sound French, but it also totally sounds "rum", not wine ;)
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I am absolutely fine with origin naming legal defenses. You can’t sell something as though it was made somewhere when it wasn’t. That is an entirely different issue than using naming rights to prevent people from making a similar agricultural product somewhere else, or sharing information about it using the name. The rights should extend to product labeling and thats it, and they do. This C&D to a youtuber is comical…
Why does origin naming only apply to "fancy" products from France and Italy - cheddar originates in England, but no one claims that cheese made exactly the same way elsewhere isn't cheddar.
In fact “ West Country Farmhouse Cheddar” is a protected name.
Another example is bourbon whiskey, it must be produced in the US out of 51% corn in a certain kind of barrel in order to carry the name.