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CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by durnygbur »

salawat wrote: post #459
durnygbur wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For Americans - "identify cyclist driving through the downtown"

Cyclists ride. They do not drive. Drive implies you aren't the prime mover in the mechanism (i.e., an engine is doing the work, and you're merely performing the task of executive signaling and control to that set of movers and systems carrying you along do so. The inflection point is actually legal in nature; in that once you slap a motor on it, you require licensure, because you're driving now. This is also why I di…

> being ignored/cursed at

I would certainly not wish to be ignored by wagons, trucks, and SUVs while cycling through American cities.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by ffpip »

fab1an wrote: post #374
ffpip wrote: post #369

If someone from HCaptcha is reading this, can you please increase the size/highlight the words that we need to see. For example, make the word(s) 'Car', 'Fire Hydrant' bigger in the sentence

hCaptcha team here - thanks for the feedback, we'll look into this!

It's simple things like this that make the experience a lot better.

I haven't yet got used to hCaptcha, so I still have to search for the word every time I solve one.

Make it a different color, and increase the font size.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by SCLeo »

est wrote: post #531
FooBarWidget wrote: post #528

This reminds me of account security questions. They ask things like "what's your childhood nickname", "what's your first pet's name". To my Chinese mother-in-law, who was born in the middle of the Cultural Revolution, when food was scarce, everyone was poor, education was not easy to get, government was non-functional due to anarchy, and when her first priority was to survive, all those questions are just weird . The…

you are not supposed to type realistic answers to security questions. Its better to answer in complete unrelated ways so its not guesable

Then why are they framed as realistic questions? Sure, the most secure way of handling them might be what you suggested, but that is not how they designed to be answered. Security questions are created to verify your identity when password does not work (e.g. when they are forgotten). Answering them in unrelated ways just create another password that will also fail under the circumstances that security questions are needed.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by wolco2 »

FooBarWidget wrote: post #528

This reminds me of account security questions. They ask things like "what's your childhood nickname", "what's your first pet's name". To my Chinese mother-in-law, who was born in the middle of the Cultural Revolution, when food was scarce, everyone was poor, education was not easy to get, government was non-functional due to anarchy, and when her first priority was to survive, all those questions are just weird . The…

She was so poor she couldn't get a nickname?

If food was scarce like it was in the western world in the 30s people are more likely to remember a favourite food. My mother ate boiled onions everyday the one time she had a piece of bread would be extremely special and a memory to cherish.

Those of us living in the western world now would have a harded time picking a fav food because there is so much choice.

Your comment has a lot of first world assumptions about third world countries through the len of time without understanding your own history.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by 93po »

architect01 wrote: post #535
est wrote: post #531

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you are not supposed to type realistic answers to security questions. Its better to answer in complete unrelated ways so its not guesable

but good luck remembering those guessed answers once you need them again to get your account back

I use a password generator for the answers and save them in my password manager. One time I had to read 20 random characters to someone on the phone as a response to my favorite food

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by Avshalom »

awiesenhofer wrote: post #384
soneil wrote: post #262

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Tangentially, we've been having fun with this recently. "Why haven't you completed Active Shooter Training?" "I'm busy, prioritising my time, and this training is irrelevant to me." "But what if there's an Active Shooter in the office?" "I've been working at home since April, and I've already been told to expect 6 months more." "It could still happen at home!" "What country do you think we're in?" Head Office seems t…

Wait, there is actually something like mandatory Active Shooter Training in US companies? For real?

I'm supposed to take it every 6 months. Though they've got it whittled down to 15 depressing minutes of "don't help anyone and try not to be seen by the cops"

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by wolco2 »

sandworm101 wrote: post #525
dayve wrote: post #247

Being an African born & bred in Nigeria, I particularly find this appalling. Captcha usually asks users to identify fire hydrants, crosswalks & other objects with design patterns that are not common here, in everyday living. There's a big question on whether these approaches work well for onboarding the next billion users to the internet, especially since the demographics are much different from existing internet use…

>>There's a big question on whether these approaches work well for onboarding the next billion users to the internet That isn't what captchas are used for. There are two side to every captcha, what the website is using them for and what the captcha creator or provider is using them for. In google's case, captchas are being used to hone AI. So it is no wonder that items like hydrants, store fronts, crosswalks and traf…

In fairness if they asked that it would be exclude the human the way streetview maps works now

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by mrspeaker »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #521
wraptile wrote: post #48

I hate captchas with a passion so I'll add another anecdote to the mix: I'm currently staying in SEA and I love gaming cafe culture here. The only problem is that every time I go to one it takes me good 20 minutes to solve all of the captchas to connect to discord, spotify etc. before I can actually enjoy the experience. So often when I only have 2 hours to spare I really don't feel like spending 15% of that time doi…

> I really don't feel like spending 15% of that time doing slave labour for google for free I routinely click on a false image and rarely get denied

I always intentionally click on wrong images, just to see how wrong I can be and still be allowed to go.

Initially I could get through easily while choosing wrong images, but now it takes me many goes to get through with even one wrong pick.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by orclev »

SCLeo wrote: post #543
est wrote: post #531

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you are not supposed to type realistic answers to security questions. Its better to answer in complete unrelated ways so its not guesable

Then why are they framed as realistic questions? Sure, the most secure way of handling them might be what you suggested, but that is not how they designed to be answered. Security questions are created to verify your identity when password does not work (e.g. when they are forgotten). Answering them in unrelated ways just create another password that will also fail under the circumstances that security questions are…

The problem is that security questions are fundamentally flawed. Most of them are easily guessable with a little bit of research, and because they can often be used to bypass your password they're effectively a backdoor into your account. You're generally better off using them as either a backup password (that is, not guessable even given knowledge about you), or simply not using them at all. If you forgot your password then reset it via your e-mail account. In short, don't use security questions, they're fundamentally broken.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Post by hhjinks »

lyx0 wrote: post #507
Bayart wrote: post #496

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Wait, you don't have to select the whole pole ? ...

This always throws me off, if it says 'Select all cars' for example and there is a car going into the next part for 10% but the main thing of that square is a tree or whatever, do I mark that? But I also always select the whole pole, no idea if it's right

Can't wait for self-driving cars to always crash into the outer part of a car because it looks straight past it thanks to our square-based teaching.
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