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Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Re: Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Post by phamilton »

_verandaguy wrote: post #5

Coming from conventional bikes, I don't understand who this is for. Carbon fibre frames are prohibitively expensive and the market for them serves very involved, often professional or semi-pro cyclists whose performance bottlenecks are imposed by the bike instead of themselves. Ditto for some of the other details on the bike, like the medium-dish carbon rims — all for the sake of weight savings and aerodynamics (sinc…

It's for the wealthy cyclist who is slowing down but still wants to ride with their crew.

I know a few guys like that, mostly for mountain biking, but they also buy them for their wives so they can go for a ride together.

Re: Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Post by knolan »

At that price they’re competing with the Specialized Vado SL which weights 33 pounds. I’ve a regular Vado 4.0, which is much heavier, that I use for my 25 km commute. Granted this a lot cheaper than the Creo but you’re getting a known quantity when you buy a Specialized system.

Re: Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Post by jeffbee »

yalogin wrote: post #23

Who is this for? Seems to serve a really really niche user base. If someone wants a electric drive in a bike, it’s not for exercise, they want it for commute. It starts at around 5k, wouldn’t they rather go for a scooter/Vespa at that price? They are more practical for chores. The only reason to want a bike is to carry into the apartment if they don’t want to be bothered with parking. So a super niche crowd?

You cannot put a Vespa on the bike rack of a bus. You cannot carry a Vespa on a train. You cannot check a Vespa as luggage at the airport. An e-bike is categorically different than a scooter.

Re: Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Post by pletnes »

ebg13 wrote: post #19
benmanns wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have an older ebike with a large battery and it is outrageously heavy and hard to handle for everything except the actual ride. Perhaps there’s a market for people who want an ebike that’s a little easier to get up apartment stairs? For riding I don’t see a need.

> Perhaps there’s a market for people who want an ebike that’s a little easier to get up apartment stairs? A detachable battery might also help with this.

The battery on my bike is perhaps 2 kg with the bike in total perhaps 26 ish. Removing the battery does not help except for hosing down a dirty bike or preventing theft of the battery.

Re: Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Post by frenchy »

ianhowson wrote: post #24
ebg13 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Perhaps there’s a market for people who want an ebike that’s a little easier to get up apartment stairs? A detachable battery might also help with this.

Or an aluminum frame that can deal with being banged around a little.

Your partner might not like what that does to the apartment walls.

Re: Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Post by pletnes »

_verandaguy wrote: post #5

Coming from conventional bikes, I don't understand who this is for. Carbon fibre frames are prohibitively expensive and the market for them serves very involved, often professional or semi-pro cyclists whose performance bottlenecks are imposed by the bike instead of themselves. Ditto for some of the other details on the bike, like the medium-dish carbon rims — all for the sake of weight savings and aerodynamics (sinc…

We have 1 car and 2 electric bikes rather than 2 cars. If you can reduce your car count, anything is worth it, give or take.

Re: Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Post by globular-toast »

jlrubin wrote: post #21
globular-toast wrote: post #12

~12kg for anyone wondering. Minimum bicycle weight in the Tour de France is 6.8kg (~15lb). It's possible to make bicycles significantly lighter than this, but most manufacturers don't because of the rules of the Tour. I do recommend to anyone who hasn't done it yet to take a moment and marvel at the technological accomplishment that is the bicycle. The car takes far too much credit but ultimately it can only work by…

Minimum bike weights serve 2 important roles other than "it's just the rules": 1) Fairness: While differences between bike manufacturers are large, the competition is about primarily athletics & setting standards allows less well resourced rider teams to compete. 2) Safety: Lighter bikes may compromise on strength/safety. Tours are already dangerous enough as is, a bike breaking poses a danger to all riders on the co…

Yes. I didn't wish to get into the politics of the Tour de France but merely give readers a perspective on conventional bicycle weights.

Re: Greg LeMond’s New 26 LB. Carbon Fiber Ebike

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Post by chrismorgan »

scoopdewoop wrote: post #15
chrismorgan wrote: post #6

A remark from a web developer on the implementation of this site: On my laptop, scrolling by touch, when I reach the image immediately above the colours section, I can’t easily go any further, because the carousel thingy that takes up most of the screen has schnaffled touch actions, and is only translating them into horizontal scrolling of that component, even if my finger is moving perfectly vertically. This is a ba…

FWIW, lots of web devs here. Thats why this is in the guidelines: Please don't complain about website formatting, back-button breakage, and similar annoyances. They're too common to be interesting. Exception: when the author is present. Then friendly feedback might be helpful.

Thank you for pulling me up on that—I’ve certainly complained about things I find particularly annoying before, but I do try to make such complaints valuable by explaining the technical side of things (why the problem occurred, and why it matters) and a solution, which I know other developers find helpful sometimes. Done in moderation, I reckon that normally satisfies that guideline (because it’s not just a complaint, but turns it into a teaching opportunity).

Also, judging by the poster’s username, the author is probably present.

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