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Re: Psiloscoby: Psilocybin Brewed by Kombucha

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Post by adrusi »

nonbirithm wrote: post #23
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #16

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I have a neutral opinion on Psilocybin in general, but beware the selection bias in internet comment sections. Positive comments get upvoted and praised, negative experiences get dismissed with a mix of victim blaming (usually "set and setting" comments) or explained away as exacerbating pre-existing underlying conditions. Eventually those with bad experiences give up on participating in discussions. It does appear t…

Only speculating, but maybe it's because the legal status of psilocybin prevents all but the people who are most interested in it from taking it. If it were legally available then maybe more people that would use it casually would emerge than if it were illegal, and the number of negative experiences would increase. From what I understand, it's best to have a good mindset and have someone else knowledgeable of the su…

Alternatively, maybe if it were legally available people who took it wouldn't have the stress of "what if the cops show up while we're tripping" hanging over them while they embarked on a drug experience that can magnify that sort of thing into a panic attack, and the rate of negative experiences would be lower.

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Post by blonde_ocean »

howlgarnish wrote: post #52

This article seems like wild speculation, while this team in Denmark says they've already done it: https://newatlas.com/science/psilocybin-synthesis-yeast-bact... ...using boring old yeast, not GMO kombucha!

I exited out when the authors claimed that “kombucha provides good set and setting.”

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Post by Uptrenda »

blodkorv wrote: post #45

I have three friends who all have or have had hppd. I find this lax attitude of psilocybin worrying especially when nobody seems to warn about the dangers of hppd. One friend of mine had it for 6months and was lucky that it passed away, the two others are in a living hell and will never have a normal life again. I know its supposed to be rare, but the amount of people i read of having some form of it is too many for…

This is a really good point. I had a friend who was interested in psychedelics who told me about similar neutral to negative changes in perception. He observed a number of changes:

- Night vision changed and became impaired by 'visual noise'

- 'Auras' or 'halos' around lights became extremely exaggerated

- Letters were occasionally harder to read as switching to a new sentence would leave a burned-in impression of the previous sentence overlapping on the new text

I honestly find these changes fascinating but it would probably be quite frightening for people not expecting possible perceptual changes. If it was me and I didn't know any better I'd think I was 'stuck in a trip' or 'permanently broken.' I wonder if people have ever lost it from having thoughts like that before. Definitely not a toy.

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Post by Pelic4n »

therealx wrote: post #74
noneeeed wrote: post #70

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That's one of my low-key worries in life. People go through life apparantly happy and healthy, and then bam some event unlocks or triggers something and they spend the rest of their life with crippling, life changing mental illness.

I think you can alleviate a lot of your anxiety (as far as you can without hacking the anxiety itself with, say, cbt) by being in tune with your body and not ignoring potential early symptoms of conditions that leave these lasting effects. Combine that with only doing "allergy" doses first (think, peanut dust that would trigger your throat to swell, but not close as if you had taken a spoonfull of peanut butter), and…

I have benzos as a safety net during my trips, and it occured to me that it may be a really bad idea to take them.

During a trip I lived what people describe as an "ego death", where I saw myself disappearing and dying, and it was the most frightening experience of my life. Not only was I completely unable to take a benzo at this point, but it is very much a death and rebirth movement as described by Leary in the psychedelic experience. If I was pulled out from that movement without completing it, I don't know what would have happened. I think I would have been left seriously shaken and disturbed. It was crucial perceiving myself coming back to existence in order to feel "me" again.

Sometimes "bad trips" aren't "bad", they're learning experiences meant to be completed, even if it is tough.

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Post by [deleted] »

Pelic4n wrote: post #56
blodkorv wrote: post #45

I have three friends who all have or have had hppd. I find this lax attitude of psilocybin worrying especially when nobody seems to warn about the dangers of hppd. One friend of mine had it for 6months and was lucky that it passed away, the two others are in a living hell and will never have a normal life again. I know its supposed to be rare, but the amount of people i read of having some form of it is too many for…

>The two others are in a living hell and will never have a normal life again. With that degree of seriousness it can be not HPPD but underlying psychosis or schizophrenia that has been activated by the drug. It happens with cannabis too. I hope they are followed by a psychiatrist and on proper medication. I agree with you. I believe psychedelics open a door in in the brain that can never close back. A lot of people h…

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Post by Pelic4n »

pampa wrote: post #61
Pelic4n wrote: post #56

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>The two others are in a living hell and will never have a normal life again. With that degree of seriousness it can be not HPPD but underlying psychosis or schizophrenia that has been activated by the drug. It happens with cannabis too. I hope they are followed by a psychiatrist and on proper medication. I agree with you. I believe psychedelics open a door in in the brain that can never close back. A lot of people h…

> It's not technically an hallucination I don't think it's hppd, but it's something. I think you just learend to pay attention to nuance in color and color combinations. I had similiar experience without psychedelics after taking a course on color and color composition by a graphic artist. The course was a combination of traditional color and composition theory with art therapy. My perception was never the same after…

I know what you are talking about, I went through the same things learning how to paint and color theory.

But it is not the same with the effects of the mushrooms. My visual perception has significantly changed. The day after, the tree I see from my kitchen was not the same.

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Post by kstenerud »

AntiImperialist wrote: post #79
kstenerud wrote: post #68

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Which GMO species are invasive? And how do you know which genetic coercion methods pose a greater danger of mutating a non-invasive species into an invasive one?

> Which GMO species are invasive? Specifically - it is impossible to know until they play out in particular eco-systems, just like with any other species. There is a reason why many organizations worldwide are working to forbid transporting certain species in and out of different habitats. Potentially - all of them. > And how do you know which genetic coercion methods pose a greater danger of mutating a non-invasive…

> Potentially - all of them.

This would apply to artificial selection as well - perhaps even more so since you've no real control over what mutations are happening. Every new evolutionary competition edge a species receives is followed by an "invasion" phase where their newfound superpower allows them to take over for a few hundred thousand generations.

> If taking a species to a different island where it is not native to is bad enough, creating specific ones which have never existed anywhere ever is a major ecological disaster waiting to happen. This should not even be a discussion...

Actually, it should be a discussion, because the above argument is a false analogy. Invasive species are problematic because the surrounding ecosystem cannot curb their spread and out-competition of preexisting species. Modern crops don't have the capability of surviving outside of a human cultivated environment. Left to their own, they'd be choked out by weeds and changing soil conditions. Now if someone were to attempt to make a weed-proof AND bug-proof crop that can ALSO survive and thrive in non-cultivated terrain, THEN I'd be worried.

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Post by capableweb »

beenBoutIT wrote: post #41

When are they going to genetically modify something (yeast, kombucha, etc.) to produce a more unanimously enjoyable psychedelic like MDMA? The inevitable unpleasant mushroom trips will really screw up any ratings system these guys employ.

Not sure that will ever be possible. Psychedelics opens you up, for better or worse, which is one of the main benefits of it. MDMA is a stimulant and empathogen leading to you just feeling better, almost no matter what circumstance.

They are different uses, but psychedelics will never be "unanimously enjoyable" as it depends too much on the person and how they feel as a person when they decide to trip.

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Post by pampa »

dm03514 wrote: post #80
pampa wrote: post #61

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> It's not technically an hallucination I don't think it's hppd, but it's something. I think you just learend to pay attention to nuance in color and color combinations. I had similiar experience without psychedelics after taking a course on color and color composition by a graphic artist. The course was a combination of traditional color and composition theory with art therapy. My perception was never the same after…

This is happening to me right now! I just took edibles daily for ~5 weeks. I haven't taken them for ~1.5 weeks and my perception has completely changed. They pulled me out of my head and thoughts, I am now much more aware of my body sensations and visually aware of the things around me, colors, angles, layouts. It feels like a completely different world. In my early 20's I had similar experience that I would have abs…

Were you microdosing?

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Post by [deleted] »

andrevoget wrote: post #36
triceratops wrote: post #31

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Does calling it r/Outside instead of just "outside" have any particular significance in the context of psychedelic substances? Just curious why you're using "r/Outside" specifically.

It's a reference to the forum r/Outside on reddit.com

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