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CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Guys, don't use anything from Google. It is such a horrible company! For example, they made Angular builds extremely slow as described here:

https://github.com/angular/angular/issues/37293

Last year there was another similar issue and each new version builds become slower and slower. I waste half of my time waiting for compilation. Never had any such issue with React/VueJS or any other framework except Angular. I really hate it.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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post #269

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It's the batteries more than anything else, most phones will loose their battery capacity in cold weather.

Wil lose. One O. Losing capacity is one thing, shutting down and refusing to start after 10 min outside is another. What use is a phone if i can't call 112 because it's cold? Edit: Also remember that I've had Apple laptops before, and only this newer model deems it necessary to shut down.

> What use is a phone if i can't call 112 because it's cold?

You're right, we should just ditch them. What use are they?

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Around 2015, or so I was visiting Boston during some really cold winter (was -10 outside) We were at the office, went out to wait for a bus, waited for 15 minutes, and since it was freezing we decided to go back inside and get uber/taxi. I pulled my laptop out of the backpack, tried to turn it on - it was dead.

Lithium batteries don't like extreme temperatures. Is it possible to make a laptop that copes ok with extreme temperatures? edit Apparently the Toughbook is able to cope with -16°C. Wonder how they do it. https://business.panasonic.co.uk/mobile-solutions/more-about...

Because they actually engineer their products to be usable?

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Don't they sell ads in the web UI like many other free email providers do?

I use gmail but I never see ads because I always use a non-Google mail client. (Thunderbird on Windows and Linux), SimpleEmail on Android.

You're an edge case and a rounding error. Enough people use the web UI and the Gmail app that they likely don't care about other users.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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> Why would indian carriers absorb the cost of an international SMS Because SMS pricing is a scam and in practice is a rounding error to handle all of those activation messages. Both countries should just exclude that number from billing. This is similar to how European carriers suddenly started competing on free international calls/data once EU enforced better rules. We've been told for decades it's really expensive…

> Because SMS pricing is a scam Everything corporates do can be called a "scam". To me, it is a "scam" that a trillion dollar company like Apple avoids putting up activation servers in India because it is more profitable to not do so and just make the indian user pay an international SMS everytime. It is also a "scam" to me that Apple insists that I can only install everything from the App Store, where as apps would…

Both can be true.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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post #57

Captchas have gone mad. The other day a major service gave me less than 10 seconds to solve a puzzle with a mouse in a maze and some cheese, and subsequently locked out of my account. Actually before I got locked out, I thought I would stand more chance with the alternative for the visually impaired. It jumped straight in to a fuzzy voice reading 20+ numbers at a rate of more than 1 per second. I was already behind o…

That sounds awful! Thankfully the most annoying things I've run into are these Americanisms like Crosswalks/different traffic lights/fire hydrants.

Your post reminded me of this quite funny dunkey video on Captcha's which is the captcha taken to its logical extreme.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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> Why would indian carriers absorb the cost of an international SMS Because SMS pricing is a scam and in practice is a rounding error to handle all of those activation messages. Both countries should just exclude that number from billing. This is similar to how European carriers suddenly started competing on free international calls/data once EU enforced better rules. We've been told for decades it's really expensive…

> Because SMS pricing is a scam Everything corporates do can be called a "scam". To me, it is a "scam" that a trillion dollar company like Apple avoids putting up activation servers in India because it is more profitable to not do so and just make the indian user pay an international SMS everytime. It is also a "scam" to me that Apple insists that I can only install everything from the App Store, where as apps would…

Practically, an SMS message uses less data than a “missed call”. I don’t think anyone has ever paid for not picking up a ringing phone.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

#328

Google's CAPTCHA is a cancer of the internet. We're all training their AI without any renumeration. I genuinely hope that some government figures out how to sue them. I've sat down for minutes, repeating CAPTCHAs over and over again, just to log in to an account or download something.

It is not without remuneration. We use CAPTCHA to accessing a service. Imagine the "worst case scenario": you don't use Google services but a paid service has Google's CAPTCHA. It may seem like you are paying for training Google's AIs and you get nothing in return... but:

- Bots cause trouble to the service

- The service has to find some mitigation

- Mitigations cost money, and that cost will be passed down to the customer in some way

- Google offers a free solution, maybe not the best, but it will not cost the service anything (or close)

- So you are training Google's AI in exchange for cheaper service

Of course, you may disagree with it, you may think that a paid service shouldn't use Google's CAPTCHA, that you already pay too much, etc... But you are free to go elsewhere, and the rest is just market considerations, not something governments generally mess with, at least not governments that support free markets.

You could do lawsuits based on specific terms and conditions, but I guess large companies, Google first, have lawyers who know they stuff and get the company covered.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

#329

Guys, don't use anything from Google. It is such a horrible company! For example, they made Angular builds extremely slow as described here: https://github.com/angular/angular/issues/37293 Last year there was another similar issue and each new version builds become slower and slower. I waste half of my time waiting for compilation. Never had any such issue with React/VueJS or any other framework except Angular. I rea…

This is not the place to shout your random pet peeves about a vaguely Google-related project.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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post #206

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> Ours are under a yellow steel panel flush with the ground, so not something self-driving cars need to identify. Why not? I would suppose it's forbidden to park over these, so identifying them makes sense.

True. Many are not in places you park though, as they're out in the road or on the footpath or grass verge.

How are those not places you park? They'll even usually leave you a nice parking invoice under your windshield wiper when you do.
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