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hCaptcha now runs on fifteen percent of the internet

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Re: hCaptcha now runs on fifteen percent of the internet

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Post by Google234 »

fab1an wrote: post #82
trianglem wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait they actually use the labeling for something other than admittance? Well that takes care of my concern about this tech then, gotta go back and change some of my other comments...

Google uses reCAPTCHA labels exclusively for themselves, and is extracting hundreds of free person years of labor from internet users every single day via this. hCaptcha lets anyone access this type of service, provided they follow certain ethical AI guidelines

How does the recaptcha bottom help train AI?

Re: hCaptcha now runs on fifteen percent of the internet

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Post by matheusmoreira »

Zak wrote: post #48

I dislike the widespread use of captcha regardless of provider. I realize anything connected to the internet will be subject to automated abuse, and it's impossible to run some types of services without taking some steps to defend against it, but it seems to me there's usually a way to handle that without invading the user's privacy or wasting their time. The exact details will vary based on the type of service, of c…

Why can't they just allow automated user agents? I should be able to scrape websites if I want to. Why do user agents have to be browsers?

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Post by entangledqubit »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #264
Zak wrote: post #48

I dislike the widespread use of captcha regardless of provider. I realize anything connected to the internet will be subject to automated abuse, and it's impossible to run some types of services without taking some steps to defend against it, but it seems to me there's usually a way to handle that without invading the user's privacy or wasting their time. The exact details will vary based on the type of service, of c…

Why can't they just allow automated user agents? I should be able to scrape websites if I want to. Why do user agents have to be browsers?

This doesn't mix well with the ad-based compensation model.

Sadly, there still doesn't seem to be much in the way of micropayment infrastructure.

Re: hCaptcha now runs on fifteen percent of the internet

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Post by Aeolun »

protoduction wrote: post #168
lowlevellimbo wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> FriendlyCaptcha will prevent 99.9% of spam For someone who has little expertise in this specific field, how are you calculating this?

Admittedly it's not calculated so it may be a stretch, it's based on the assumption that the vast majority of spam out there just looks for forms to submit without smarts (which is also why honeypots can be pretty effective, especially if you have a small website that nobody will take the effort to work around it.) I've seen people report that they have reduced spam to near nothing already with just a honeypot, but o…

It should be fairly easy to set up two open wordpress blogs, one with the captcha and one without.

After a few months you check how much spam arrived at either and get your number?

Re: hCaptcha now runs on fifteen percent of the internet

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Post by Aeolun »

asutekku wrote: post #217
protoduction wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I built an alternative[0] that takes a proof of work approach. As a site owner you set the difficulty that makes sense for you: so perhaps you would want 20 seconds of computation before you can submit. The nice thing is that this can happen entirely in the background while the user fills in the form. Also with multiple requests from the same IP in a short timespan, the difficulty increases. There are downsides to to…

So your solution is to technically waste electricity to replace captcha? It's for sure an interesting concept, the first point and low-end devices requiring 20+ seconds to pass are not a very good points to sell your service.

Electricity is a lot cheaper than my time.

Re: hCaptcha now runs on fifteen percent of the internet

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Post by YetAnotherNick »

einpoklum wrote: post #259
YetAnotherNick wrote: post #254

From the privacy policy We collect the following categories of information: Information that can be used to identify or contact an individual ("Personal Information"), such as name, email address, and country.... We may also verify the identity of our Integrators and Customers by comparing personal information against third party databases or official legal documents. Information collected automatically as a result o…

Wait, that's the hCaptcha policy? Can you link to it on their website?

Updated it in end. By the way I am not in anyways related to hcaptcha. Just sharing it because they don't seem to be the saint that everyone else is believing them here.

Re: hCaptcha now runs on fifteen percent of the internet

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Post by Aeolun »

Normille wrote: post #175
noja wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find that when I solve a Captcha too quickly, I get another one. And another one. And another one. So instead, I wait a short time, click a few wrong boxes, then enter the correct Captcha. Maybe this is part of it, but I don't like it.

If the Buster plugin can't solve the reCaptcha for me [It does fail from time to time] then I just don't bother visiting that website. Or if it's a site I need to use, then I'll try again later and see if I either get let in without being asked to jump through hoops, or get a reCaptcha Buster can solve. I simply refuse to waste my time and drive up my blood pressure by doing unpaid training work for Google's AI, in o…

Can you provide an alternative that doesn’t involve my contact form getting spammed to hell with crap?

Re: hCaptcha now runs on fifteen percent of the internet

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Post by ac42 »

Just tried the demo and found it somewhat confusing

"enter your name and your favourite vegetable" is to lure bots into responding?

When "I am human", I am asked to select boats and fail because I didn't tick the images with ships.

I would not like to add a Captcha that appears to be smart Alec, has a tendency to trigger the same in the respondents or, worse, makes customers feel stupid. reCaptcha somehow seems better at avoiding this.

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