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Charles Darwin notebooks lost and assumed stolen

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Re: Charles Darwin notebooks lost and assumed stolen

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Post by gentleman11 »

antpls wrote: post #100
interestica wrote: post #58

Luckily: "The two Darwin notebooks had previously been digitised and their content is available online." . University of Cambridge has a bit more on their "appeal" site ( https://www.cam.ac.uk/stories/DarwinAppeal ) The digitized notebooks are available: [1] https://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-DAR-00121/1 [2] https://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-DAR-00122/1 Also, yesterday was the anniversary of the release of On the Or…

I believe it is important to keep the physical version at a safe place for as long as possible. How long before a new wave of "flat earthers" decides the digital version is just a deep fake and it never existed?

I suspect 10-20 years ago?

Re: Charles Darwin notebooks lost and assumed stolen

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Post by selimthegrim »

angry_octet wrote: post #102
pelasaco wrote: post #66

disturbing that when I read "20 years ago", I first thought "wow, they stole it in 1970", then I read "The notebooks were last seen in November 2000.." then the penny suddenly dropped

BRB checking my portrait in the attic.

Does it still look young and human?

Re: Charles Darwin notebooks lost and assumed stolen

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Post by romwell »

antpls wrote: post #100
interestica wrote: post #58

Luckily: "The two Darwin notebooks had previously been digitised and their content is available online." . University of Cambridge has a bit more on their "appeal" site ( https://www.cam.ac.uk/stories/DarwinAppeal ) The digitized notebooks are available: [1] https://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-DAR-00121/1 [2] https://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-DAR-00122/1 Also, yesterday was the anniversary of the release of On the Or…

I believe it is important to keep the physical version at a safe place for as long as possible. How long before a new wave of "flat earthers" decides the digital version is just a deep fake and it never existed?

They'll say the physical version is a fake too.

Though I say for really important works, having a physical copy in addition to the digital one is a must. Digital data is easy to copy — and easy to lose. And bit rot is a thing.

Re: Charles Darwin notebooks lost and assumed stolen

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Post by pelasaco »

angry_octet wrote: post #102
pelasaco wrote: post #66

disturbing that when I read "20 years ago", I first thought "wow, they stole it in 1970", then I read "The notebooks were last seen in November 2000.." then the penny suddenly dropped

BRB checking my portrait in the attic.

don't forget your glasses...

Re: Charles Darwin notebooks lost and assumed stolen

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Post by JeremyBanks »

antpls wrote: post #100
interestica wrote: post #58

Luckily: "The two Darwin notebooks had previously been digitised and their content is available online." . University of Cambridge has a bit more on their "appeal" site ( https://www.cam.ac.uk/stories/DarwinAppeal ) The digitized notebooks are available: [1] https://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-DAR-00121/1 [2] https://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-DAR-00122/1 Also, yesterday was the anniversary of the release of On the Or…

I believe it is important to keep the physical version at a safe place for as long as possible. How long before a new wave of "flat earthers" decides the digital version is just a deep fake and it never existed?

I wouldn't trust them with the physical copy to verify it, so I don't know that it makes a difference.

Re: Charles Darwin notebooks lost and assumed stolen

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Post by Pick-A-Hill2019 »

ghostbrainalpha wrote: post #93
Hoasi wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Black market for ancient/cultural artifacts that provide no practical benefits whatsoever to someone's life. Fascinating. No practical benefit but status; a lot of people, rich and poor, are chasing standing.

There is actually a VERY practical benefit to holding stolen art and artifacts in certain circles. For Criminal Organizations, drug dealers, terrorists, etc... these items can be used as collateral to secure loans or drugs on consignment, or exchanged for hostages. They are a vital part of the black market currency exchange. This is a big part of the plot of the book "Gold Finch" if you find it interesting. Another v…

Indeed. From [1] "The two stolen works were eventually recovered in 2016, when they were used by an Italian mafia boss as collateral to get a more lenient jail sentence."

And from [2] "Artworks tend to surface either very quickly after they are stolen or else disappear into the underworld where they are traded between criminals at a fraction of their value for drugs and other illicit materials, Marinello said."

[1] https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/worldnews/11904865/van-gogh-pa...

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2011/aug/16/rembran...

Re: Charles Darwin notebooks lost and assumed stolen

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Post by tomcatfish »

mhh__ wrote: post #95
mensetmanusman wrote: post #33

Newton’s notebooks have been digitized nicely: https://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-ADD-03996/55 As a research scientist, one thing that has definitely changed since the passage of FTF [0] in 2013 is the loss of a singular notebook of ideas and thoughts. Most everything is digital now, and ideas are exchanged through dozens of media which don’t facilitate easy recording to a single physical source. [0]: https://en.m.wi…

I really want to do this, i.e. document basically everything I know for the rest of my life but I genuinely can't bring myself to have the attention span to stick to it. Maybe it's the way the computer effects one's brain (I'm relatively convinced I have ADHD to at least some degree too). At very least procrastination-orbiting around that task has meant that I have a fairly functional set of scripts for blogging in L…

This isn't an ad, I'm not affiliated with the program.

I recently tried https://obsidian.md and found it really helped me overcome my laziness and take notes down. Another thing I have found that helps is to just make the note and deal with organization later. I started by making several unconnected notes, but they quickly grow into small graphs.

IMPORTANT WARNING: This is not FOSS and has a weird licensing model. You don't have to worry about this too much since it just makes markdown files which are easy to move between different note programs. If they do not open-source it, I am feeling fairly optimistic on making my own (if no one beats me to it, in which case I would just want to contribute to theirs).

Re: Charles Darwin notebooks lost and assumed stolen

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Post by [deleted] »

mhh__ wrote: post #95
mensetmanusman wrote: post #33

Newton’s notebooks have been digitized nicely: https://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-ADD-03996/55 As a research scientist, one thing that has definitely changed since the passage of FTF [0] in 2013 is the loss of a singular notebook of ideas and thoughts. Most everything is digital now, and ideas are exchanged through dozens of media which don’t facilitate easy recording to a single physical source. [0]: https://en.m.wi…

I really want to do this, i.e. document basically everything I know for the rest of my life but I genuinely can't bring myself to have the attention span to stick to it. Maybe it's the way the computer effects one's brain (I'm relatively convinced I have ADHD to at least some degree too). At very least procrastination-orbiting around that task has meant that I have a fairly functional set of scripts for blogging in L…

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