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E2EE is a lie, Facebook hold the private encryption keys server-side so they're able to decrypt messages at any time.
> E2EE is a lie, Facebook hold the private encryption keys server-side so they're able to decrypt messages at any time. This is a pretty bold claim. Do you have a citation for this?
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I imagine that the API-based uploads of the recent decrypts from the user being reported can also be faked, so I'm not sure that this is a very important distinction.
There is some difference in the skill level required to convincingly craft a fake screenshot versus to spoof an API request, but yeah, it's not a huge difference.
For example rooting a phone by hand is pretty hard. Many tools exist to do it automatically.
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There is some difference in the skill level required to convincingly craft a fake screenshot versus to spoof an API request, but yeah, it's not a huge difference.
do not underestimate the script kiddy tools, which are created to proof a vulnerability. For example rooting a phone by hand is pretty hard. Many tools exist to do it automatically.
Is this true or are the messages randomly garbled each time so that there is no way for Facebook to figure out the main content
It seems like i get ads based on my WhatsApp messages, but this could be conjecture
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(Edit, for context: the original submission title was “WhatsApp can now read your recent messages when you report a user”) By selecting a specific part of the article to highlight in the title, you introduce your own bias before people even begin reading. Stick to the Submissions Guidelines [1], and use the original title. “WhatsApp beta for Android 2.20.206.3” [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > P…
It’s a good thing you edited your original suggestion: > “Users may send recent chat history when reporting” because that is false. According to the article, you have no choice as to whether you send that chat history. It is a _must_ if you want to report. Your new suggestion is just as bad because it throws out all context about why anyone would care about just another beta. This isn’t a software release track annou…
“Users can now report a copy of recent messages to WhatsApp”
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> “WhatsApp beta for Android 2.20.206.3” Sorry but there is zero information in that title. I'm not going to use that. The intention of my post is to make more people aware of this new 'feature'. If some other user had posted this article with that title, I wouldn't have clicked it and I wouldn't have know of this new change.
> I wouldn't have clicked it That’s exactly the point. The current title is clickbait. If you think the original title is boring, it’s because this is a boring piece of news. I wouldn’t be worried about “warning” people, since WhatsApp already warns people when they click the report button: > Most recent messages from this user will be forwarded to WhatsApp
Can you state anything factually wrong with the title? Wikipedia states clickbait as misleading.
Now that I think of it, I should have used 'will' instead of 'can'. You don't have any choice, which 'can' might imply. But that would be even more clickbaity based on your assessment
>I wouldn’t be worried about “warning” people
Okay. I wanted to warn people even before they get this update, so I posted it.
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It’s a good thing you edited your original suggestion: > “Users may send recent chat history when reporting” because that is false. According to the article, you have no choice as to whether you send that chat history. It is a _must_ if you want to report. Your new suggestion is just as bad because it throws out all context about why anyone would care about just another beta. This isn’t a software release track annou…
How about: “Users can now report a copy of recent messages to WhatsApp”
Isn't that wrong? You can only report people, not messages. When you report a person, the messages are sent
There have been several unofficial reports of Facebook unifying the backend messaging among Instagram, WhatsApp and FB Messenger. If and when that happens, E2EE on WhatsApp will finally be completely gone. Anyone knows how far along (or canceled) that plan is?
I wonder if they are using the What's App Erlang infrastructure or if they are moving away from Erlang instead.