Doctors and Nurses Are Running on Empty

Post by 6gvONxR4sf7o » Wed, Nov 25, 2020, 6:32 PM UTC

lotsofpulp wrote: post #45

6gvONxR4sf7o wrote: post #23

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Could you imagine seeing headlines about people dying because of people like you walking out during a crisis? And knowing you contributed to those deaths? And where are you going to go? Switch industries in the middle of this? Because if you stay in healthcare, walking out of your single facility doesn't even get you away from the pandemic. I have friends burning out in healthcare, being paid terribly, but sticking i…

I wholeheartedly support nurses and nursing assistances walking away. Because society has shown that we don’t value their work enough to pay them enough to attract people to the job. Nursing homes are run on shoe string budgets, those people changing bed pans are well in their moral rights to strike and demand better pay. I don’t see anyone lining up to do their job. It’s also a bit rich for people who don’t work the…

Post by alistairSH » Wed, Nov 25, 2020, 6:33 PM UTC

woahAcademia wrote: post #33

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Healthcare is already under-regulated. That's how shit like homeopathy keeps showing up on pharmacy shelves. I'd prefer to be treated by an actual doctor, not an alternative health practitioner posing as one thanks to deregulation.

Alternative healthcare? Let me remind you of the opioid epidemic entirely caused by physicians. To buy dandruff medicine you need to get approval from a Physician, a pharmacist, and pharmacy. Not to mention the actual product regulations. We've had 140 years of regulation. It was to protect healthcare workers at our expense.

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Nov 25, 2020, 6:35 PM UTC

6gvONxR4sf7o wrote: post #61

lotsofpulp wrote: post #45

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I wholeheartedly support nurses and nursing assistances walking away. Because society has shown that we don’t value their work enough to pay them enough to attract people to the job. Nursing homes are run on shoe string budgets, those people changing bed pans are well in their moral rights to strike and demand better pay. I don’t see anyone lining up to do their job. It’s also a bit rich for people who don’t work the…

I don't judge people walking out. I'm pushing back on people who judge people for not walking out, like 'they had it coming, why didn't they just walk out?' My GF is in this position right now, where walking out would mean switching industries in a pandemic, because other facilities aren't any better off. She's burnt out as hell, and puts up with an enormous amount of shit to make patients lives better, so I'm sensit…

Post by hollerith » Wed, Nov 25, 2020, 6:35 PM UTC

cycomanic wrote: post #37

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Yeah it's sad people feel pains. I'm also unhappy that those same people have used Regulatory capture to increase their wages at the expense of public health. Deregulate medical and there will be less burnout, but the pay will be cut in half.

Is that why the US healthcare system which has less regulations than most other western health systems is also significantly more expensive?

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Nov 25, 2020, 6:37 PM UTC

jorblumesea wrote: post #52

n0us wrote: post #42

Man, this thread really bringing out the worst of Hackernews and its so disappointing but unfortunately not surprising to see the complete lack of capacity for empathy from some of the other heavily downvoted commenters. Almost everyone who participates on this site is well educated and fortunate enough to understand that people have been putting their lives on the line for months on end to help people through this c…

HN users are generally well compensated and largely disconnected from the trials and tribulations of many healthcare workers and normal people. Tech is a bubble in many ways. The disconnect between tech, tech salaries and "how the other half lives" has always shocked me. People who have never worked in a restaurant legitimately questioning why waiters need to make a living wage and why they don't just join a coding b…