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Diego Maradona has died

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Re: Diego Maradona has died

#91
post #36

Unpopular opinion: He was a gifted footballer but was a total piece of shit in nearly all other aspects of life including abusing women and minors, to say nothing of his complete lack of sportsmanship on the pitch. I hate that this guy gets lionized. To me it just underlines everything wrong with football.

I fail to see how "lionizing" someone for their performance or their actions in a specific domain undermines all the wrongs one has done in their life. Sure, perhaps most people will only remember him as a great footballer without talking about the wrong actions he has done during his life, but a) most of them wouldn't have cared anyway and b) one can still see both sides of the coin and admit one's wrongdoing despit…

It’s a question of the message sent to others: if the unpleasant parts are omitted or excused, there’s a good chance that some people will conclude that those things don’t matter if you’re successful enough. That attitude has negative effects on society since the bad behavior happens even if the success never does.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

#92
post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This goal was incredible, but with many years passed, it has faded in significance for me. Not sure why, if it is because the game has evolved, or I have seen many other great goals, or something else. But probably because I think the defense was too passive. This goal would not be done today, most probably.

Lionel Messi, same goal, 2004 (or thereabouts) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAehMNYw0ig

Wish I was in a random bar in Barcelona when that happened. Always a huge pleasure to rewatch it.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

#93
post #30

to see how legendary this man was, you just have to watch Maradona, the HBO documentary. which is also arguably one of the best sports documentaries. He was a polarizing figure no doubt, but this man won Argentina the world cup single-handed. ahh see the pun. he also made napoli a backwater team into the powerhouse it is today. n remember most of the matches he won, he was high on coke i.e not playing at his full pot…

That documentary is awesome. Probably the best player ever and an unique character

Re: Diego Maradona has died

#94

Best commentary of that goal is in Spanish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wVho3I0NtU The ease with which he played, and lived, was the stuff of legend. There's something tragic in it as well, since it probably contributed to his early passing.

English subs here: https://twitter.com/MirrorFootball/status/133163813276532327...

Re: Diego Maradona has died

#95
post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This goal was incredible, but with many years passed, it has faded in significance for me. Not sure why, if it is because the game has evolved, or I have seen many other great goals, or something else. But probably because I think the defense was too passive. This goal would not be done today, most probably.

Lionel Messi, same goal, 2004 (or thereabouts) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAehMNYw0ig

Amazingly similar. I think it is better. Notice how the player that chases him does not slow the pace, but pushes on until he makes a failed attempt to break the play. Speed seems faster too. A good illustration of evolution of the game. Of course, we don't know if Maradona would still have scored with more effort from the English defense, maybe he would. In any case, two great goals.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

#96
post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lionel Messi, same goal, 2004 (or thereabouts) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAehMNYw0ig

Amazingly similar. I think it is better. Notice how the player that chases him does not slow the pace, but pushes on until he makes a failed attempt to break the play. Speed seems faster too. A good illustration of evolution of the game. Of course, we don't know if Maradona would still have scored with more effort from the English defense, maybe he would. In any case, two great goals.

One was against Getafe in almost-meaningless copa del rey game, the other was against England in a Quarter final game in the WC. Night and day.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

#97
post #70

In case someone has not seen the second goal against England in 1986 Original footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wVho3I0NtU An interview many years later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOz2uGMTA2w

This goal was incredible, but with many years passed, it has faded in significance for me. Not sure why, if it is because the game has evolved, or I have seen many other great goals, or something else. But probably because I think the defense was too passive. This goal would not be done today, most probably.

The fact it was during an eliminatory game of World Cup (that Argentina ended up winning) matters a lot to the importance and beauty of this goal. There are not many opportunities in a player life to do such a thing (unlike national league or even continental league matches)

Re: Diego Maradona has died

#98
RIP :( I'm playing this now in his memory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0KCbZ7L17I . He's the greatest footballer that I had the chance to watch, and I consider myself lucky for that. Probably nobody will come again to that level, the game and the spirit of the game has changed too much for that to happen.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

#99

In case someone has not seen the second goal against England in 1986 Original footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wVho3I0NtU An interview many years later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOz2uGMTA2w

Man all before the professional foul became a thing. That kind of play doesn't happen much these days.

This is the main danger IMO. They need to stop by liberally applying yellow and red cards

Re: Diego Maradona has died

#100
For many personal reasons I wont mention here Maradona was a real source of joy for me (something sadly not too common in life). Descansa en paz Dieguito querido, nunca se te escapo la tortuga.
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