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Diego Maradona has died

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Re: Diego Maradona has died

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Post by buran77 »

aloukissas wrote: post #12

Imagine if we had this silly VAR technology in the 80s. Then one of the most iconic moments in football history (hand of god) would have been reviewed and dismissed. RIP Diegito

It's iconic because it was controversial but he got away with it, also because he was anyway a truly exceptional player. First thing that comes to mind being his other goal in the same match.

But otherwise using the hand to score a goal in football is not that much different from using a cheat device installed in a race car, taking an illegal shortcut in a marathon, or even performance enhancing drugs. Without drug testing many iconic wins wouldn't have been reviewed and dismissed.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

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Post by whoisjuan »

s_dev wrote: post #5
nahuel0x wrote: post #2

correction: the greatest footballer of all time.

What about Pelé?

It doesn’t even compare. Pele played in a primitive era of the sport where the existing rules (or lack of them) helped him thrive.

Maradona played in an era that is more akin to modern football with stricter rules.

Don’t get me wrong. Pele was great, but I doubt he would have been that great in modern football.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

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Post by lowdose »

dzonga wrote: post #30

to see how legendary this man was, you just have to watch Maradona, the HBO documentary. which is also arguably one of the best sports documentaries. He was a polarizing figure no doubt, but this man won Argentina the world cup single-handed. ahh see the pun. he also made napoli a backwater team into the powerhouse it is today. n remember most of the matches he won, he was high on coke i.e not playing at his full pot…

> n remember most of the matches he won, he was high on coke i.e not playing at his full potential.

That's a big assumption. I bet without coke he wouldn't have dared to do his hand of god act.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

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Post by _ofdw »

Unpopular opinion: He was a gifted footballer but was a total piece of shit in nearly all other aspects of life including abusing women and minors, to say nothing of his complete lack of sportsmanship on the pitch.

I hate that this guy gets lionized. To me it just underlines everything wrong with football.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

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Post by destroyHN »

bobochan wrote: post #22
s_dev wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about Pelé?

Pelé is definitely the choice of many pundits, but he played most of his club soccer in the Brazilian leagues. In Brazil's World Cup efforts he had a superb team around him. Maradona is given the nod because he played in Spain and Italy, in addition to Argentina, and dominated a World Cup with a much weaker team.

Pele is the choice of many people.

Maradona is certainly in the conversation for greatest player of all time, but it's a bit weird to suggest that it's a universal opinion.

In any case, Garrincha was better than either.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

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Post by WhyNotHugo »

bzb6 wrote: post #13
WhyNotHugo wrote: post #6

While a great football player, also serial abuser of minors. He had sex [and offspring] with many girls between 10 and 12. Even took pictures on the spot with some of them. Argentina is have a three day duel for this guy, portrayed as a hero, with honorific status. As someone born in Argentina, I can't help feeling disgust and shame on this.

Maradona was an excellent football player without a doubt but all he’s done for decades now is getting a renown for being a cocaine addict, a communist, and a pederast. As per the rest of your comment I love your country but you have some very deep seated problems and having a three day duel for this piece of shit shows them very well.

> I love your country but you have some very deep seated problems and having a three day duel for this piece of shit shows them very well.

Couldn't agree more.

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