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Apple Silicon M1: Black Magic Fuckery

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Post by SulfurHexaFluri »

recursive wrote: post #201
jolux wrote: post #170

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Emoji are part of the OS because they’re frequently displayed on websites and in applications, so the system font needs to support them to render them correctly.

So does MacOS require an operating system update to get a new font?

No you can load your own fonts if you want but the default ones are distributed in OS updates like every other OS.

Because Apple controls the end devices an OS update is very simple and goes out to basically all users so they don't have to rely on weird slide loading hacks that are typical for platforms like Android.

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Post by heavyset_go »

joshstrange wrote: post #32
jrm4 wrote: post #6

At the risk of being that (Linux) guy -- What is gained here if we're just still applying faster cycles to Apple-esque wasteful (and perhaps harmful, as we're apparently learning re: their telemetry) software? If people really dig their Apple stuff, great. But I think its worth thinking about the likelihood that a "slower" computer running Linux could probably serve the actual user better in terms of "getting stuff d…

> But I think its worth thinking about the likelihood that a "slower" computer running Linux could probably serve the actual user better in terms of "getting stuff done." Moreover, I think we're pretty close to "beauty" parity here as well. This is just not true. I'm sorry but I've used linux on the desktop many times, using many different distros, and many different desktop environments. It's shiny and pretty when y…

> * I've personally spent and watched coworkers spend hours and hours tinkering with graphics cards drivers or other random quirks*

This is like complaining that a Hackintosh is buggy and requires tinkering. If you want a polished experience, buy computers with first class Linux support from vendors. Even better if you buy machines with Linux preinstalled.

> Desktop linux is not ready for average users

If ChromeOS would suit a user's needs, then so would a polished Linux distribution like Ubuntu with Firefox or Chrome, most of the time.

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Post by postalrat »

harpratap wrote: post #257
anigbrowl wrote: post #228

For those of us who just don't where MacOS is concerned, what are the prospects for Linux on an M1?

Maybe better to wait for good ARM chips on a PC. Now that there is a demand for it, I'm sure some ARM vendor will step up if not Qualcomm

There is some demand but even more demand for non-arm processors on PC.

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Post by socialdemocrat »

JorgeGT wrote: post #124
egypturnash wrote: post #58

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In Electron 14, we have found an astounding new paradigm for writing apps that results in astounding developer time savings! Now instead of running your Javascript app inside a copy of Chrome, we have a custom hybrid of Javascript and Lisp, which is internally transpiled onto a Brainfuck interpreter running in Conway's Life! Electron 15: The Life machine has been re-implemented as a series of GPU instructions, which…

Electron 16: completely rewritten in Minecraft Redstone.

Of course, since Minecraft runs on all platforms, this makes Electron even more platform independent.

Sooner or later this is going to turn into that movie Inception.

Seriously why can't we just fix the bottom layers!!! Why does every problem have to be solved by adding ever more layers!

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Post by Aperocky »

pcr910303 wrote: post #133
neilpanchal wrote: post #4

I just got one. I’m blown away by the speed as well. Chrome runs insanely fast! Alas, it’s not developer ready yet. Brew is a mess. Docker doesn’t work. PyCharm is WIP although can use x86 version. I was skeptical of the hype but this little laptop has made me realize how slow everything else is. Unfortunately, while the hardware has accelerated far beyond expectations, the software - specifically MacOS BigSur is a m…

While I won’t go that far, arguing that macOS with a Windows 95 UI is a good idea, I do agree that Big Sur’s current UI is a mess. Traditional macOS users valued the Mac user interface deeply, and IMO that was why while iOS 7 got a big refresh, macOS got a much smaller one, only with flatness refinements. Big Sur feels like the iOS 7 for the Mac, and I’m very sad that I’ll have to wait at least 4~5 years to see the n…

> Traditional macOS users valued the Mac user interface deeply

I'm on the developer side and I don't know if I count as traditional macOS user but I've personally bought 3 macs (including the current M1 one) and use another mac from my company to work.

IMO I have almost 0 interaction with mac user interface. My time are either spent in terminal or in a browser. There's little need to 'interface' with whatever UI mac comes with.

I love mac mostly because of its hardware form factor and its shell. I can't tell you any GUI gimmick despite using it as my main driver for years.

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Post by alwillis »

pcr910303 wrote: post #133
neilpanchal wrote: post #4

I just got one. I’m blown away by the speed as well. Chrome runs insanely fast! Alas, it’s not developer ready yet. Brew is a mess. Docker doesn’t work. PyCharm is WIP although can use x86 version. I was skeptical of the hype but this little laptop has made me realize how slow everything else is. Unfortunately, while the hardware has accelerated far beyond expectations, the software - specifically MacOS BigSur is a m…

While I won’t go that far, arguing that macOS with a Windows 95 UI is a good idea, I do agree that Big Sur’s current UI is a mess. Traditional macOS users valued the Mac user interface deeply, and IMO that was why while iOS 7 got a big refresh, macOS got a much smaller one, only with flatness refinements. Big Sur feels like the iOS 7 for the Mac, and I’m very sad that I’ll have to wait at least 4~5 years to see the n…

I do agree that Big Sur’s current UI is a mess.

When I installed a beta of Big Sur this summer, at first I was taken aback by the interface… and some of the application icons were pretty bad.

Now that Big Sur is my daily driver and it's more polished, I've grown to like the new interface—and I didn't think I necessarily would.

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Post by dfox »

nottorp wrote: post #166
MBCook wrote: post #140

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> Not only faster, but I bet simultaneously accessible from both the CPU and GPU. It is. We know they're using a unified memory architecture, they pointed it out in the presentation.

Unified doesn't necessarily mean dual ported.

Due to how DRAM works the array itself cannot have more than one port and almost certainly even the DRAM chip as a whole is still some variation of single ported SDRAM (long time ago there were various pseudo-dual-ported DRAM chips, but these were only really useful for framebuffer-like applications). But given that there are multiple levels of cache in the SoC it is somewhat moot point.

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Post by bound008 »

cmdshiftf4 wrote: post #48
bound008 wrote: post #41

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I've had "reduce motion" turned off on my iOS devices since it was an options... The animations in the latest Messages.app have been driving me crazy, but sure enough "Reduce Motion" is available in the `Accessibility` preference panel under display. FWIW, I am blown away by my M1 Mac, but my x86 Mac feels about 5-10% snappier on Big Sur.

>I am blown away by my M1 Mac, but my x86 Mac feels about 5-10% snappier on Big Sur. For clarification, do you mean your x86 with Big Sur is faster 5-10% faster than you M1 with Big Sur, or is it compared with the same machine running what I'm going to guess is Catalina?

Sorry, I mean my x86 machine has improved in performance with the upgrade to Big Sur.

The M1 MBA (16gb RAM) feels snappier and more responsive in almost every way to my Mac Mini w/64gb of RAM. RAM usage is also noticeably lower on the M1 when I migrated my browser tabs over (500+ between Firefox and Safari).

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Post by bitwize »

gumby wrote: post #270
sooheon wrote: post #219

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I'm surprised they're getting rid of long held keyboard shortcut conventions though. Previously, modal popup options (i.e. for saving docs) could be selected via Option-letter, i.e. "Save _a_ll" could be selected with Option-a. Their new popups which may or may not be prettier force you to either use the mouse or turn on "Use keyboard navigation to move focus between controls" globally and tab around. Neither of thes…

I agree: this kind of thing is infuriating because it's such a slowdown to have to go touch the mouse and find the pointer on the screen. Really interrupts the workflow.

The stopwatch consistently proves it takes less time than using the keyboard. Apple's HCI research showed that people "lose" the time it takes to hunt and acquire the keyboard shortcuts.
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