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Are you suggesting that companies shouldn't make, and consumers buy, faster hardware?
I'd suggest that someone who breaks into Slack HQ and secretly installs a underclocking kernel extension on all their developers' Macs wouldn't be a bad person.
Apple Silicon M1: Black Magic Fuckery
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#132I don't quite understand how 'retain' and 'release' can be more memory efficient on Apple Silicon than x86.... I can understand how they can be more efficient from a performance standpoint in terms of more efficient reference counting, but I don't understand how that translates to less memory usage which is apparently what's being argued... ? Unless on x86 some of the 'free's when the ref counts hit 0 were being batc…
Reference counting releases memory as soon as it gets dereferenced, while GC cleans up memory periodically, which means higher memory usage (more than what's actually in use at any moment).
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#133I just got one. I’m blown away by the speed as well. Chrome runs insanely fast! Alas, it’s not developer ready yet. Brew is a mess. Docker doesn’t work. PyCharm is WIP although can use x86 version. I was skeptical of the hype but this little laptop has made me realize how slow everything else is. Unfortunately, while the hardware has accelerated far beyond expectations, the software - specifically MacOS BigSur is a m…
Traditional macOS users valued the Mac user interface deeply, and IMO that was why while iOS 7 got a big refresh, macOS got a much smaller one, only with flatness refinements. Big Sur feels like the iOS 7 for the Mac, and I’m very sad that I’ll have to wait at least 4~5 years to see the new interface improve in a better state.
Some of my key annoyances (except for bugs):
* The new control center now requires more clicks, but due to the padding getting bigger, I can’t put all of the shortcut icons in the menu bar
* The new control center and notification center’s UI is so foreign from other parts of the macOS. It’s just… so custom.
* There are now multiple variants of the title bar thickness, and all of the Apple apps now use all four. It just feels ugly. The title ban of the Photos app and the Calendar app are almost the same — why does one use a .unified one and one uses a .unifiedCompact one? And why does Safari uses a .unified one when it doesn’t really have any information to convey?
* This is from Catalina, but the NSSwitch stuff collides with checkboxes… but well I’m guessing that’s for Catalyst trying to look native
I can go on and on… but my general feeling of Big Sur’s UI is that it would take multiple years to make this better.
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I want macOS that has a UI of Windows 95. That would be totally insane on Apple Silicon. So much this. I used to run Windows 7 in classic mode and really liked the low footprint, no nonsense appearance. Windows 10 has no such mode. I wonder if we will see Linux support
Linus on the topic: https://i.redd.it/0c7c4h2t9u061.png
Edit To clarify: i mean, linus is saying he wouldnt go to the trouble personally, not that he would reject a patch adding support. Those are two very different things.
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#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
This quote doesn’t really cover why M1 macs are more efficient with less ram than intel macs? You’ve got a memory budget, it’s likely broadly the same on both platforms, the speed at which your retains/releases happen isn’t going to be the issue. it’s not like intel macs use GC where m1 uses RC. (It explains why iOS does better with less ram than android, but the quote is specifically claiming this as a reason for 8G…
The quote right after explains your concerns. >The memory bandwidth on the new Macs is impressive. Benchmarks peg it at around 60GB/sec–about 3x faster than a 16” MBP. Since the M1 CPU only has 16GB of RAM, it can replace the entire contents of RAM 4 times every second. Think about that…
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ugh. Back in the 90s our supercomputers were way less powerful than today's laptops. I want to feel that. Never mind animations, just make everything happen instantly.
I agree 100% animations are out of control. There are a few situations where the animations hide loading. Instead of the ui freezing temporarily there's a fancy animation. Outside of situations like that I just want an instant action.
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#137You know the thing I worry about next: how are apps going to inevitably bloat in inefficiency and claw back the improvements in CPU?
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#138I just got one. I’m blown away by the speed as well. Chrome runs insanely fast! Alas, it’s not developer ready yet. Brew is a mess. Docker doesn’t work. PyCharm is WIP although can use x86 version. I was skeptical of the hype but this little laptop has made me realize how slow everything else is. Unfortunately, while the hardware has accelerated far beyond expectations, the software - specifically MacOS BigSur is a m…
With so many projects in need of changes to work on the M1, it sounds like it's more than ready for developers.
I buy a new MPB every two years, and you bet your ass my next one will be an M1. But that'll be in 2022, I'll be quite happy to stay on my x86 machine until then :)
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#139> cries in 2020 MBP We may need to start a support group
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
The quote right after explains your concerns. >The memory bandwidth on the new Macs is impressive. Benchmarks peg it at around 60GB/sec–about 3x faster than a 16” MBP. Since the M1 CPU only has 16GB of RAM, it can replace the entire contents of RAM 4 times every second. Think about that…
Sounds like some form of GDDR instead of plain DDR. Not only faster, but I bet simultaneously accessible from both the CPU and GPU.
It is. We know they're using a unified memory architecture, they pointed it out in the presentation.