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Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Re: Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Post by ogre_codes »

lovegoblin wrote: post #282
ogre_codes wrote: post #160

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The internet sleuthing might just be smoke and mirrors. It's possible this guy already knew where the monolith because he knew the installer or is the installer. Either way, he's comes out looking good. Not sure which is more likely.

Eh there are whole communities of people who do stuff like this as a hobby. There's no particular reason not to believe it.

Wasn't trying to suggest it's unbelievable or discredit the guy's ability to chase things down.

Merely raising the possibility that he could have gotten his information another way.

People who put up things like this often want them to get found.

Re: Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Post by noxer »

wpasc wrote: post #77
lultimouomo wrote: post #61

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This guy really is something: > I looked at rock type (Sandstone), color (red and white - no black streaks like found on higher cliffs in Utah), shape (more rounded indicating a more exposed area and erosion), the texture of the canyon floor (flat rock vs sloped indicating higher up in a watershed with infrequent water), and the larger cliff/mesa in the upper background of one of the photos. I took all that and lined…

You have to love the internet sometimes. Someone who works construction (as he stated) can develop a fun investigatory hobby just via the internet. The he can sign his work with a silly name like bear__f##ker (which I'm guessing is a reference to the movie super troopers).

Imagine if these people would investigate voter fraud. No mainstream media would ever report that ;P

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Post by skissane »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #315
skissane wrote: post #280

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia%E2%80%93East_Timor_s... Australia and East Timor negotiated a treaty to divide up oil and gas in the sea between the two countries. Australia bugged the East Timorese government offices to get an unfair advantage in the negotiations. The East Timorese government found about this, and then sued Australia in the Permanent Court of Arbitration to have the treaty invalidated. An Au…

The word on the street that the extremity of the "in secret" part is the Director of Public Prosecutions, Christian Porter, protecting old party mate, Alexander Downer, to keep his name out of the mud for as long as possible, as it's likely he was the top of the chain of authorization for the bugging, being that he was the Minister for Foreign Affairs at the time and was outspoken against East Timor for accusing Aust…

I agree with you.

Minor factual correction though: Christian Porter is the Attorney-General, not the DPP

Re: Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Post by s1artibartfast »

ericmay wrote: post #98
s1artibartfast wrote: post #89

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What isn't good to get that kind of treatment. The purpose of the law is to improve the quality of life. Nothing wrong with changing the law to further that goal. Just give the monolith a permit to make it legit.

You didn't know that this thing existed like 2 hours ago and now you want to change the laws in our national parks to allow art installations across our parks? Why even have national parks and try to preserve wilderness? Maybe we can set up a Starbucks next to it and some bathrooms too. It's the famous monolith! Come one come all! > The purpose of the law is to improve the quality of life. I don't see how litter in m…

Simply put, I think it is cool and would like to to stick around. For what it is worth, here are a few points to consider.

There already is art Throughout the wilderness and I think it is great. Sometimes the art is as simple as a statue or plaque commemorating a historic location, other times it is DIY art like this.

The point of national parks isn’t to preserve wilderness for the sake of preservation. The point is recreation. This is why they are full of artificial modifications like roads, trails, and sometimes attractions with shops and bathrooms.

Also, as far as I can tell, this isn’t in a national park, but on federal BLM land Used for hunting and off-roading.

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Post by bigbubba »

b0rsuk wrote: post #244
kazagistar wrote: post #166

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There is room for many types, and when it comes to more traditional storytelling, games can create more direct emotional connections by making you the character, rather then the protagonist just being someone you watch.

But most games nowadays actively avoid that! They make you control Geralt or Solid Snake or Master Chief or whatever. You know, someone cooler than you could ever possibly be. They introduce third person cutscenes if the game isn't already 3rd person by default. You can't choose what to say or are very limited in what or how you say it. You pursue someone else's goals. Half Life 1 is one of the few games that got it…

Silent protagonist games still exist. 'Prey' comes to mind (though an AI character speaks to you using your character's voice, and you can also hear your character speak on a few recordings you can find. But in the tradition of HL, your character never utters anything while you are in their perspective, and there are no third person cutscenes. Spoilers: the entity you are playing as is not actually the character it's presented as, so technically you never actually hear your character's voice.)

The new Doom games also have silent protagonists, but unfortunately have some third person cutscenes and are extreme examples of 'cooler than you'.

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Post by zhengyi13 »

lostcolony wrote: post #264
skissane wrote: post #243

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Who is to say they didn't bring them up the chain, and the chain just ignored them? Try to bring issues to the public and they'll charge you with "espionage"/"mishandling classified information"/etc. Even if the charges don't succeed, you'll lose your career and the court case will ruin you.

See: Edward Snowden

See Deep Throat, while you're at it.

Re: Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Post by bigbubba »

jandrese wrote: post #281
blovescoffee wrote: post #260

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The news reporters linked on the original reddit post said it was solid.

Did the news reporter drill into it? How would they know?

Probably they hit it with a rock and decided it didn't sound hollow. They may also have noted an absence of seams. Seams could be hidden with welding and grinding, but that would suggest it wasn't assembled on site.
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