Why Japanese web design is so different (2013) • Hacker News Board

Re: Why Japanese web design is so different (2013)

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Post by huangc10 » Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 8:20 PM UTC

nomad543 wrote: post #198

huangc10 wrote: post #32

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Do you mind giving me an example of this in 2020? I do remember reading a lot about this in the last couple of years but it seems designers have been quickly to rectify it. Out of all the websites and apps I use commonly, I'm seeing less and less examples of this.

Try using the Facebook ads and Google Adwords interface for more than one week. Those are the worst interface I've ever seen. Slow and disfunctional, every click you get a spinner, I'm surprised it went to production, using that for more than a week is torture. As if the spinners were not bad enough, now western web design created the animated grayed out text, which I particularly find an aberration. Youtube interfac…

I get what you mean, but you're basically complaining about UX. The guy was talking about radical minimalism. Not sure killing pagination is under the radical minimalism category...

Re: Why Japanese web design is so different (2013)

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Post by euske » Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 6:46 AM UTC

1123581321 wrote: post #103

euske wrote: post #70

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As a Japanese native who's fluent in English, I disagree with this. I regularly translate English (mostly technical) texts to Japanese, and the translation I get is roughly the same size as the original. Its density is certainly not "very low". The reason that you might think that Japanese is more "bloated" is probably because the form of the language you hear most - in TV news and speeches - are in the "polite" form…

I am completely ignorant here--how common is the polite form on websites?

Depends on the type of websites. Most corporate websites are polite. In a message board like 2-chan, (unsurprisingly) not at all. Actually, some of the most vulgar Japanese that most people would never speak in real life can be only found on the Internet.

Re: Why Japanese web design is so different (2013)

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Post by japgolly » Tue, Dec 01, 2020, 2:39 AM UTC

cambalache wrote: post #196

japgolly wrote: post #47

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That's not how Japanese works. Yes Japanese uses Chinese characters that's only a subset of Japanese. Japanese sentences are typically a bit longer than English in terms of syllables and written length - their main reduction technique at the language level is omission, rarely efficiency improvement. - Why's it so hot today? = 6 syllables - Nande konna ni atsui no kyou? = 10 syllables (spoken colloquially) What about…

> Japanese sentences are typically a bit longer than English in terms of syllables and written length? Do you understand than 1 kana represents 1 syllable? They are BY DEFINITION, more concise than Latin letters.

Wow thanks! I didn't understand that despite being able to read and write Japanese! Sarcasm aside you don't seem to have a very deep understanding so maybe you should be a bit nicer when expressing your opinion.

> 1 kana represents 1 syllable

ちゅ > BY DEFINITION, more concise than Latin letters

smash <-- 1 syllable, 5 latin letters, ~3 kana in length スマッシュ <-- 5 kana