Because AWS doesn't have his own fancy language.
Why AWS loves Rust, and how we’d like to help
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Re: Why AWS loves Rust, and how we’d like to help
#12Is Mozilla going to continue sponsoring the Rust project for the forseeable future? After letting servo out [1] > Servo was incubated inside Mozilla, and served as the proof that important web components such as CSS and rendering could be implemented in Rust, with all its safety, concurrency and speed. Now it’s time for Servo to leave the nest! Is there any chance they do the same with the Rust language? Either way,…
We are still in the process of setting up the Rust Foundation, and so you'll see who's sponsoring at that point.
Re: Why AWS loves Rust, and how we’d like to help
#13I believe that's Amazon, Microsoft and Facebook all looking to get involved in core Rust development (I think partially triggered by the Mozilla layoffs). If anybody was still harbouring doubts about Rust's future, now is the time to lay them aside.
They have (including Google) all been involved to various degrees so far; this is about increasing their involvement.
This is excellent, frankly almost unbelievably good news. On the one hand, I'm still bummed at Mozilla's recent decisions re: layoffs. But with these 3 companies picking up the torch and increasing their investments, that is a ringing endorsement of Rust's viability for greenfield projects (and that compiler checks > coders conventions in improving software memory safety)
Having maybe kicked off a small flamewar with my above comment, I will admit to being curious to contribute to deferring the eternal september of rusts community and how welcoming it is with all the influx of new developers, myself incuded in em.
Theres probably a netiquette equivalent somewhere, but beyond "don't act like the rust evangelism strike force" of n-gate fame, I'm fuzzy as to its details.
Re: Why AWS loves Rust, and how we’d like to help
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
They have (including Google) all been involved to various degrees so far; this is about increasing their involvement.
Sure, but from my perspective (you probably had better insight into these companies involvement than me) there was always a question about how committed companies this large really are when they only have a few projects in the language. Hiring core developers puts all doubts to bed (and also the kind of investment that actually for counts for something).
It definitely is a significant increase in support, all I'm saying is that it's a difference of intensity, not of kind, that is, it's not going from "no support" to "support" but from "support" to "lots of support."
Very happy to see this happening, for all the reasons you cite.
Re: Why AWS loves Rust, and how we’d like to help
#15I believe that's Amazon, Microsoft and Facebook all looking to get involved in core Rust development (I think partially triggered by the Mozilla layoffs). If anybody was still harbouring doubts about Rust's future, now is the time to lay them aside.
Friends of mine that are contract programmers have been ramping on Rust for the past 2-3 years claiming the number of requests for it has been increasing exponentially. I installed it two weeks ago and have been getting a feel for it. It's like if C++, C#, and npm had an offspring. I always hoped Java would make a comeback, but Rust is looking like the real deal.
Re: Why AWS loves Rust, and how we’d like to help
#16Because AWS doesn't have his own fancy language.
Yeah, like those Gos, Javas, Kotlins, C Sharps and so on.
A lot of fanciness rolling across companies.
Re: Why AWS loves Rust, and how we’d like to help
#17Mozilla should have spun-out a Rust consulting company.
It still can
Re: Why AWS loves Rust, and how we’d like to help
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
They have (including Google) all been involved to various degrees so far; this is about increasing their involvement.
Sure, but from my perspective (you probably had better insight into these companies involvement than me) there was always a question about how committed companies this large really are when they only have a few projects in the language. Hiring core developers puts all doubts to bed (and also the kind of investment that actually for counts for something).
As someone who has lived through hype cycles, big companies can pull the rug just as quickly on these investments as they’ve made them. While this does indicate a more serious interest, it’s not nearly the safety net you think.
To the contrary, a bunch of FAANG driven contributions tend to make projects focused too much on particular use cases. Go’s clusterfuck of package management is entirely because Google doesn’t do package management.
Re: Why AWS loves Rust, and how we’d like to help
#19Because AWS doesn't have his own fancy language.
Re: Why AWS loves Rust, and how we’d like to help
#20Mozilla should have spun-out a Rust consulting company.
I think that could have worked. There were ideas to do such a thing, as well as consulting around wasm and other stuff. I'm not sure why none of them were actually tried.