I love how the NOR gate is made visibly of two transistors.
Makes it pretty hard to hide an Internet backdoor in it. Seriously, I wonder if this is a way to make a secure and open computer, by implementing the deepest level of security functionality in slow but visibly trust-able hardware.
MyNOR: Single board computer that uses a single NOR gate as its ALU
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#52Re: MyNOR: Single board computer that uses a single NOR gate as its ALU
#53It is a fun project, but it is kind of a lie. Looking at the block diagram, there is a counter which addresses the microcode.
Why one would do this? Probably for fun; There’s no practical application of this that I can see.
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#55What sort of simulator is required to go from “running” to ordering a prototype board 26 days later? I had assumed physical breadboards and wires and chips were always necessary to prototype... 2019-11-02 The first version of the MyNOR simulator is running. The circuit works! 2019-11-17 I have finished the work on the microcode. I added support for MyNOR to my cross-assembler myca. 2019-11-28 PCB layout completed. A…
When I was in university, we used Logisim[0] for our intro to digital logic class. I think you could probably simulate such a computer in this tool if you wanted something intuitive. Otherwise you can prepare your design in a high level logic language like Verilog and test it using Verilator [1]. Naturally there is always a risk when going from running in a simulator to the real PCB. [0] http://www.cburch.com/logisim…
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Solderless breadboards are the equivalent of exploratory programming. If you know what you want to make you might as well go for a PCB (you can simulate the logic quite nicely these days).
This doesn't work for high speed designs though. Probably anything over 20MHz will be difficult to make useful on a breadboard.
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#58I wonder why he chose to use a discrete TTL gate for the ALU's nor gate instead of just another 74HC series IC.
Re: MyNOR: Single board computer that uses a single NOR gate as its ALU
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Makes it pretty hard to hide an Internet backdoor in it. Seriously, I wonder if this is a way to make a secure and open computer, by implementing the deepest level of security functionality in slow but visibly trust-able hardware.
While simplicity of design can engender trust, in this case it's the stuff around it that still needs complexity. Besides, people have already demonstrated single-gate backdoors that don't show up in most IC die photos.
Source? Not that I don't believe you, but the idea sounds fascinating
Re: MyNOR: Single board computer that uses a single NOR gate as its ALU
#60I love how the NOR gate is made visibly of two transistors.
Makes it pretty hard to hide an Internet backdoor in it. Seriously, I wonder if this is a way to make a secure and open computer, by implementing the deepest level of security functionality in slow but visibly trust-able hardware.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkTvDjhImwo
Here's how that is doing it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzDTZuFJYX4
He's got several more, including this one which doesn't even use switches. You just tap the wire to toggle the LEDs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvXKSSmItls
I have no idea how that one works.