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Post by whydoyoucare »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #3

Nice. Can you also promote Foss apps while you are at it instead of pushing for more proprietary hacks in exchange of foreign proprietary hacks? Money will flow on its own.

It isn't that simple - Governments require Support, Scale, Stability, and Usability. FOSS lacks in all four, unless someone picks up the Support tab, makes the app scale to several billion people, ensure upgrades don't break functionality, and makes the app actually usable all citizens.

As a consequence, the app may be free in theory, but the Support and other contracts cost a lot of money. As it is often said Linux is free if your time has no value.

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Post by throw93 »

PayTM which is huge in India has Chinese investors like Ant financials and Alibaba. Ant being largest share holder with 29.71% ownership.

So it’s curious to see the selective retaliation. At what point a company is Chinese?

PayTM raked in immense profit following demonetization in India(overnight invalidation of several currency notes). And it continues to handle large amounts of financial transactions on daily basis.

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Post by kazagistar »

cookieswumchorr wrote: post #57
swirepe wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder what we can do to prevent a segregated internet?

on small scale, consistently ignore and boycott all attempts by governments to do so. They are not allmighty, they cannot place an armed cop behind every single citicen. If you are in a country that has some functioning democratic institutions, you may also try using them

Also, work to increase the democraticness of institutions in your country so that it may be changed in the future, and work to change people's thoughts on matters so they grow the will to change things.

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Post by narism »

ericjang wrote: post #69
AntiImperialist wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree! In these games, you only need one player who plays foul and the rules have to be changed for everyone. Having said that, The Great Firewall is the best thing CCP has done to protect itself, by a long shot. Had it not done so, China would be, at best, full of riots and uprisings and protests everywhere as foreign interests mobilized locals to act against the CCP using anti-CCP propaganda in their social media.

are you sure that would happen? Make no mistake, I get that Western powers do have cultural and economic agendas (McDonald republics and such). But if you look at Japan and South Korea, they didn't really have significant protests or any "installed leaders".

What? The US basically wrote the Japanese constitution and Syngman Rhee was elected largely based on the backing of occupation forces.

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Post by talal7860 »

nomoreusernames wrote: post #64
abhigupta wrote: post #7

Just for background: These actions are targeted against Chinese companies, in the continued battle by Indian government to fight against recent land grab near Himalayas by Chinese Army and long term economic war e.g., New Silk Road, Trade Deficit etc.

also india has one of the worlds largest muslim populations, and india is also the most populous democracy in the world. most people forget that india has been one of the most vocal countries regarding the persecution of the chinese muslim population. more so than for example turkey, pakistan, saudi, even US and EU has not said much about the muslims being put into concentration camps. i would say blocking apps and s…

It'd have been awesome if that was the reason.

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nomoreusernames wrote: post #64
abhigupta wrote: post #7

Just for background: These actions are targeted against Chinese companies, in the continued battle by Indian government to fight against recent land grab near Himalayas by Chinese Army and long term economic war e.g., New Silk Road, Trade Deficit etc.

also india has one of the worlds largest muslim populations, and india is also the most populous democracy in the world. most people forget that india has been one of the most vocal countries regarding the persecution of the chinese muslim population. more so than for example turkey, pakistan, saudi, even US and EU has not said much about the muslims being put into concentration camps. i would say blocking apps and s…

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Post by nwsm »

segfaultbuserr wrote: post #28
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #21

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> Data is the new oil This is a bad analogy. Oil is a commodity. Data are not. Oil is extractive. You can fly in tech and talent, pump oil, keep the rulers happy and not concern yourself with the local population. You can’t do that with data—its value, for advertising and influencing, is linked to the population’s productivity and power. Finally, data are ephemeral in a way oil isn’t. You can’t barrel up bytes in the…

Agree. BTW, I think there is at least one aspect which the "oil" analogy gets it correct - the flammability of data. Stockpiling private data without safeguards and regulations is dangerous, just like stockpiling oil and gas.

That's a very loose analogy.

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Post by NikolaeVarius »

AntiImperialist wrote: post #70
ericjang wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

are you sure that would happen? Make no mistake, I get that Western powers do have cultural and economic agendas (McDonald republics and such). But if you look at Japan and South Korea, they didn't really have significant protests or any "installed leaders".

Japan has had installed leaders since the WWII. The occupying army is still there. South Korea has had installed leaders since the Korean War.

Hah what?

The US hated Shinzo Abe for the longest damn time, didn't stop him from being re-elected multiple times.

Also, its not appropriate to call the forces still in Japan an "occupying army". There is a joint forces treaty in place, and Japan has multiple times refused to amend Article 9 of their constitution

In South Korea, they've deposed the previous President. Seems like the US is doing a bad job installing leaders there.

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