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Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

freebuju wrote: post #10

Data is the new oil and India is just now fully recognizing how equivalent it is to an Iraq-style reserve; in this digital economy

> Data is the new oil

This is a bad analogy.

Oil is a commodity. Data are not. Oil is extractive. You can fly in tech and talent, pump oil, keep the rulers happy and not concern yourself with the local population. You can’t do that with data—its value, for advertising and influencing, is linked to the population’s productivity and power. Finally, data are ephemeral in a way oil isn’t. You can’t barrel up bytes in the middle of the ocean.

Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by [deleted] »

vvwvvwvvw wrote: post #16
ngcc_hk wrote: post #14

Good for them to raise up against a totalitarian. If all free all free. But if one sided close boarder by china, do not blame others not to let its app to go to the world. Free is never one sided. So us trade.

I'd actually prefer China to keep its population's intel from the west, even if it means getting backlashes like this.

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Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by abecedarius »

thatguy0900 wrote: post #4

I wonder how long it will be until every country just has its own segregated internet. Will it happen on its own for economic reasons or will it take a real war that involves massive hacking attacks from both sides?

Please don't frame a political thing as inevitable, unless you want to contribute to it happening or persisting. "I wonder if every country will... how long might that take?" avoids that problem.

Yes, I'm quibbling about words. In politics words aren't separate from reality.

Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by tvalentius »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #21
freebuju wrote: post #10

Data is the new oil and India is just now fully recognizing how equivalent it is to an Iraq-style reserve; in this digital economy

> Data is the new oil This is a bad analogy. Oil is a commodity. Data are not. Oil is extractive. You can fly in tech and talent, pump oil, keep the rulers happy and not concern yourself with the local population. You can’t do that with data—its value, for advertising and influencing, is linked to the population’s productivity and power. Finally, data are ephemeral in a way oil isn’t. You can’t barrel up bytes in the…

*You can’t barrel up bytes in the middle of the ocean.

https://news.microsoft.com/innovation-stories/project-natick...

Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by afrojack123 »

vvwvvwvvw wrote: post #16
ngcc_hk wrote: post #14

Good for them to raise up against a totalitarian. If all free all free. But if one sided close boarder by china, do not blame others not to let its app to go to the world. Free is never one sided. So us trade.

I'd actually prefer China to keep its population's intel from the west, even if it means getting backlashes like this.

I'd prefer the West blocks China access to its population's intel.

Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by antepodius »

RegnisGnaw wrote: post #19
2Gkashmiri wrote: post #3

Nice. Can you also promote Foss apps while you are at it instead of pushing for more proprietary hacks in exchange of foreign proprietary hacks? Money will flow on its own.

Why? Its in the government's interest to promote MII (Made In India) rather then some foreign FOSS app.

Is it? If everyone in a country used FOSS apps rather than paying (in money, data, or letting ads into their heads) for proprietary ones, wouldn't that country's people be better off? And nobody's saying there can't be indian-made FOSS.

Unless you're talking about the government putting its own interests above the people's, which makes sense.

Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by segfaultbuserr »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #21
freebuju wrote: post #10

Data is the new oil and India is just now fully recognizing how equivalent it is to an Iraq-style reserve; in this digital economy

> Data is the new oil This is a bad analogy. Oil is a commodity. Data are not. Oil is extractive. You can fly in tech and talent, pump oil, keep the rulers happy and not concern yourself with the local population. You can’t do that with data—its value, for advertising and influencing, is linked to the population’s productivity and power. Finally, data are ephemeral in a way oil isn’t. You can’t barrel up bytes in the…

Agree. BTW, I think there is at least one aspect which the "oil" analogy gets it correct - the flammability of data. Stockpiling private data without safeguards and regulations is dangerous, just like stockpiling oil and gas.

Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by ihaveajob »

abecedarius wrote: post #24
thatguy0900 wrote: post #4

I wonder how long it will be until every country just has its own segregated internet. Will it happen on its own for economic reasons or will it take a real war that involves massive hacking attacks from both sides?

Please don't frame a political thing as inevitable, unless you want to contribute to it happening or persisting. "I wonder if every country will... how long might that take?" avoids that problem. Yes, I'm quibbling about words. In politics words aren't separate from reality.

I don't get the downvotes. This is a perfectly logical position. Looking back, the fall of the Berlin wall may seem predictable, but who would have forecast it in 1988?

Re: Indian government blocks access to forty-three mobile apps

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Post by swirepe »

abecedarius wrote: post #24
thatguy0900 wrote: post #4

I wonder how long it will be until every country just has its own segregated internet. Will it happen on its own for economic reasons or will it take a real war that involves massive hacking attacks from both sides?

Please don't frame a political thing as inevitable, unless you want to contribute to it happening or persisting. "I wonder if every country will... how long might that take?" avoids that problem. Yes, I'm quibbling about words. In politics words aren't separate from reality.

I wonder what we can do to prevent a segregated internet?
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