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I created an alternative to the YouTube algorithm to stop me wasting time

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Re: I created an alternative to the YouTube algorithm to stop me wasting time

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Post by powerapple »

powerapple wrote: post #101
PopeDotNinja wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish I could explicitly tell YouTube “don’t ever recommend videos I’ve seen.”

Don't ever recommend videos from 9 years ago please. This is the part I don't understand, how is Google doing so bad at this. You get slightly better experience if you use Chrome. It (on purposely?) keeps asking you to click 3 buttons to play a video Edge, and won't even show comments.

What I mean is it displays a button to click after I clicked play on video when I use Edge, which is my main drive nowadays. And the comments are not displaying. It cannot be only my experience I hope :S so I get downvoted because my taste not liking old videos :/

Re: I created an alternative to the YouTube algorithm to stop me wasting time

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Post by namrog84 »

brylie wrote: post #104
PopeDotNinja wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish I could explicitly tell YouTube “don’t ever recommend videos I’ve seen.”

Also, if a video thumbnail/title displays on my screen and I don't click it, it is a sign of disinterest. Stop suggesting videos I have repeatedly scrolled past. Use the lack of engagement as a feature.

Once I tried disliking or dismissing a video as enforced dislike. Then it said "ok disengaging the entire category" and I was like wtf no. That's not at all what I wanted. And there was no way to undo. So its frustrating trying to teach those algorithms things I don't like.

It was on google somewhere. It was like I wanted to dislike a particular author or that particular programming language they were talking about, but took it as me not wanting to hear about anything technological ever again. It was frustrating as heck.

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Post by etripe »

PopeDotNinja wrote: post #138
Alphaeus wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When it asks you why you're not interested, one of the options is "I've already watched this video".

I used to do that, but it was a lot of work & I didn't notice an improvement to the search results.

I experienced exactly the same. I suspect that since they're optimising for engagement, already having watched a video is some indication that you'll engage with it again.

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Post by TobTobXX »

gibolt wrote: post #94
PopeDotNinja wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish I could explicitly tell YouTube “don’t ever recommend videos I’ve seen.”

They have two options under the triple dot menu (at least on Android feed) that you are not interested in this video or this channel. May help curate once you start getting those recommendations.

I once watched a few videos about US politics. After that YouTube just kept spanning half my recommendations with vids about USpol. While they were addicting, they didn't really interest me. I then took the effort to flag tem as 'not interesting' (about 3x, refreshing the browser) and it works, I have gotten very few recommendations about that since then.

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Post by charliebrownau »

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Re: I created an alternative to the YouTube algorithm to stop me wasting time

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Post by corobo »

ChrisLovejoy wrote: post #11
typicalbender wrote: post #7

It looks like I have to pay for Medium premium in order to read this story... can anyone give me a tl;dr? Or it looks like I can use Google cache text only to get around the paywall but that seems sub-par.

Didn't realise Medium was like this - I've just uploaded the article to my personal blog: https://chrislovejoy.me/youtube-algorithm/ Am going to see if I can update the link above aswell.

Just for another anecdata I must have clicked two other articles hosted by Medium at some point today so I also can't see it - cheers for the alternate link!

Re: I created an alternative to the YouTube algorithm to stop me wasting time

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Post by ChrisLovejoy »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #100

Can this be reimplemented to support peertube? The algorithm would need to be changed to not work on views and subscriptions because those figures are too low. Maybe some other rules based on engagement? Time? Comments?

Yeah, so someone else suggested this too - I'm going to look into the API and see what information I can get from it

Re: I created an alternative to the YouTube algorithm to stop me wasting time

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Post by krmmalik »

ChrisLovejoy wrote: post #135
krmmalik wrote: post #46

How does a non-coder use what you've created? I want something that will allow me to add interesting videos to my "watch later" playlist. That way I can then watch the videos on the normal YouTube app on my apple tv

Yeah, it's not that easy to at the moment. I was planning to build a front-end site, where you could just type your search terms and parameters and it would show you the videos, but to honest I ran out of steam after I couldn't get the code to run on Lambda.

Ok, fair enough
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