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Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case

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Post by giantg2 »

bsder wrote: post #314
giantg2 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why the company? Seems like it was just this individual.

> Why the company? Because you don't just randomly cough up a couple hundred anything from a company like Apple without it appearing on the books somewhere. If it didn't appear on the books anywhere, then it sounds like Apple gave this department a quite significant "petty cash" fund and used this guy and department to do unsavory things so that the higher-ups can have plausible deniability. Yeah, the company needs t…

Most of these companies do have charity/donation programs. How do you tell which are legitimate vs a bribe like this?

Re: Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case

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Post by rietta »

Unbelievable capricious enforcement of a may issue permitting regime, asking for and receiving bribes! For those who don't know, in many other States a carry permit must be issued by the issuing authority unless the applicant is disqualified for reasons stated in the law.

The irony is these Apple employees previously could have sought and obtained certain out of state licenses by passing the tests and qualifications. Those licenses would have been recognized in much of the country outside of California. However, now once convicted they will be ineligible under Federal and State laws to even possess a firearm for the rest of their lives.

Re: Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case

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Post by nomdep »

mattlutze wrote: post #44
dusing wrote: post #13

It should not be so difficult for the head of security of the largest company on the planet to get a CCW permit. That is the problem. The system is so flawed, you have no choice but to play the game (bribe). You can't just not have a CCW in the position he holds.

Why would the Chief Security Officer of a massive corporation need a CCW?

Not for him

> Santa Clara County alleges that Mr Sung held back issuing concealed weapons permits to Apple's security team

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Post by outworlder »

temp667 wrote: post #323
kennywinker wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have it on good authority that all apple employees are trained to not pay any kind of bribes. Didn't realize that training would need to be applied in the states tho

That's bad training. If they are stuck in a country because they won't pay the $20 exit fee because authorizing legislation was not properly adopted, then apple are idiots. It will take one person dying because of this policy for apple to be sued to hell and back.

> That's bad training. If they are stuck in a country because they won't pay the $20 exit fee because authorizing legislation was not properly adopted, then apple are idiots.

Oh so they are stuck somewhere during a business trip? In that case, they would contact their company for assistance.

Alternatively, it's just a job. The penalties tend to go as far as firing the employee. If it's a life and death situation that's an ok outcome. I mean, if we insist in discussing these convoluted scenarios...

Re: Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case

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Post by grp000 »

mcny wrote: post #261
threatofrain wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Esp. because the story continues with the Santa Clara County Sheriff's office extorting other bribes from other parties.

They didn't even touch the Sheriff. > Sheriff Laurie Smith, who has the authority to issue CCW permits, has not been charged with a crime. Either i. the sheriff knew about/was in on this scheme and must be put in prison or ii. the sheriff didn't know about how her number two was soliciting bribes using her authority to grant/deny licenses and must resign because that is just gross negligence. Which one is it?

In another incident, Sung “extracted” a promise from Chadha for $6,000 worth of luxury box suites at a San Jose Sharks game on Valentine’s Day, 2019, before issuing Chadha a CCW permit, Rosen said.

“Sheriff Laurie Smith’s family members and some of her biggest supporters held a celebration of her reelection as sheriff in Chadha’s suite,” Rosen said.

She's definitely not painted in a good light, that's for sure.

Re: Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case

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Post by HarryHirsch »

throw0101a wrote: post #277
tomatotomato37 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Named after a Republican assemblyman, supported by the NRA, passed by a 2/3 vote in a Democratic assembly & senate, and signed in by Ronald Reagan, all due to a group of Black Panthers protesting inside the capitol building while armed. Who knew all you needed was a racial incentive in order to make the stripping of rights a bipartisan effort.

> […] protesting inside the capitol building while armed. Meanwhile, in Michigan: * https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/protesters-michigan-whitmer-co... * https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/30/michigan-pro...

Reichswehr schießt nicht auf Reichswehr.

Re: Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case

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Post by Spooky23 »

closeparen wrote: post #254
paxys wrote: post #98

Can't believe all the Apple apologists here. Bribing public officials is a crime, period. It isn't an "unfortunate situation" or anything else that people are calling it. It also doesn't matter who initiated the bribe. The employee, and potentially the company itself, absolutely need to be charged and prosecuted for it.

It looks like the iPads were for the department, not the guy's personal use. It's a little bit dubious given that it's the same agency asking for and receiving the benefit, but money is fungible. Suppose the Sheriff had insisted on iPads for some other department, like the schools. Governments do stuff like this all the time. In fact constituents get mad when they don't . The Planning Commission is considered derelic…

Nooooo.

You’re making up stuff about things you don’t know about. Accepting gifts is always an issue in government, and often a serious crime for the employee, regardless of who benefits. Accepting or demanding compensation for official action is corruption, regardless of the beneficiary.

Negotiating public contracts, seeking public benefit, or enforcing requirements related to permitting is not bribery or corruption. You may not like poor people, public access to urban space, or union labor, but community standards based on law are not corruption.

Officials administrating the permitting process have discretion to act. The appointing authority ultimately controls them, and the people ultimately hold them accountable.

Re: Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case

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Post by thatguy0900 »

Keverw wrote: post #352

I thought this was common place in California since they are a may issue instead of a shall issue state. Remember like 3 years back coming across a YouTube video on this, someone wanted a list of permit holders and how much they donated. But the sheriff office wasn't cooperating with his freedom of information request and tried to say it was illegal to film them without permission. Don't remember what county or the v…

I can't imagine the police only ask for bribes occasionally, once you start why only get new ipads

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Post by paxys »

rietta wrote: post #362

Unbelievable capricious enforcement of a may issue permitting regime, asking for and receiving bribes! For those who don't know, in many other States a carry permit must be issued by the issuing authority unless the applicant is disqualified for reasons stated in the law. The irony is these Apple employees previously could have sought and obtained certain out of state licenses by passing the tests and qualifications.…

There is no way that the Apple executive will actually be convicted of anything.
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