Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case

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Post by RachelF » Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 11:12 PM UTC

Why do Apple employees need to carry concealed weapons?

Re: Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case

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Post by ciarannolan » Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 11:18 PM UTC

RachelF wrote: post #61

Why do Apple employees need to carry concealed weapons?

I assume these are high-level security personnel at Apple HQ. It doesn't seem unreasonable to have armed security at a place like that.

> A grand jury alleges that Thomas Moyer promised to donate 200 iPads worth $70,000 to the Santa Clara Sheriff’s Office in exchange for four concealed firearm licenses for Apple employees.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/11/23/apple-...

Re: Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case

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Post by radicaldreamer » Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 11:18 PM UTC

RachelF wrote: post #61

Why do Apple employees need to carry concealed weapons?

I'm sure there are some legitimate reasons (like responding to a workplace shooter) but I imagine a lot more likely is intimidation...

Re: Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case

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Post by acallaghan » Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 11:19 PM UTC

RachelF wrote: post #61

Why do Apple employees need to carry concealed weapons?

I mean, why does anyone

Re: Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case

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Post by mef » Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 11:19 PM UTC

RachelF wrote: post #61

Why do Apple employees need to carry concealed weapons?

To protect executives and other high value staff

Re: Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case

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Post by jlawer » Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 11:19 PM UTC

RachelF wrote: post #61

Why do Apple employees need to carry concealed weapons?

I would assume executive protection, in case some crazy tries to fix the "covid causing 5G iphones" by assassinating Tim Cook or such.

Re: Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case

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Post by radicaldreamer » Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 11:20 PM UTC

mef wrote: post #65

RachelF wrote: post #61

Why do Apple employees need to carry concealed weapons?

To protect executives and other high value staff

I think the contractors who do that already have ccw permits (they're typically specialist contractors not employed by the company itself, like Gavin de Becker and Associates)

Re: Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case

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Post by jlawer » Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 11:21 PM UTC

radicaldreamer wrote: post #67

mef wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To protect executives and other high value staff

I think the contractors who do that already have ccw permits (they're typically specialist contractors not employed by the company itself, like Gavin de Becker and Associates)

Apple have been known to take services in house.... Why not security?

Re: Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case

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Post by ec109685 » Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 11:21 PM UTC

jlawer wrote: post #66

RachelF wrote: post #61

Why do Apple employees need to carry concealed weapons?

I would assume executive protection, in case some crazy tries to fix the "covid causing 5G iphones" by assassinating Tim Cook or such.

This events are from August 2019, so no covid then.

Re: Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case

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Post by rmk » Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 11:23 PM UTC

Help me understand how this bribery works. If someone "donates" iPads to "the Sheriff's Office", does this mean that they can be taken by people who work there (for example, Sung could sell them on and pocket the cash)? What is the mechanism here? The cut-and-dry case would be asking for a cash bribe and pocketing it, so is this a way of making the bribe look like something else?