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WhiteHat Jr’s founder files $2.6M defamation suit against critic

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Why would they include content that is so obviously false in a guidebook? Certainly the book's author didn't believe it to be the case.

a major problem is that teachers are using these "crambooks" too when setting exam questions so basically you get a leg up when you study from them vs the official coursebooks. you'll literally see the same questions there so obv it's easier to study from that than from the coursebooks source: experienced this in my math classes in the CBSE board of education from india

a friend of my parents in Bombay changed his kid's school because not only did the teacher set homework and tests from the guidebooks, but would not accept any other answer than what the book supplied. original work was marked wrong.

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They are the biggest scam in India capitalizing on FOMO of Indian parents. They charge heaftily (more than $2000) to teach app development (using Scratch, Firebase etc.). Their staff is poorly paid and just reads off scripts. Their staff doesn't know even the basics of CS (as evidenced in this video: https://youtu.be/1Y21eSn_zSM?t=64 , when the student asks how files are stored in Cloud Storage, she says the files ar…

Interesting. This reminds me of the story of Siraj Raval, a formerly highly influential YouTuber on machine learning and blockchain topics: https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2019/10/16/why-siraj-ravals-... Some years ago, when I started getting into machine learning, I couldn't tell he is a fraud. Considering that just before he was broadly exposed as a fraudster, he was invited by the European Space Agency (ESA) to gi…

He's nowadays riding the Covid wave:

https://www.sage-health.org/

https://www.sage-health.org/about-us/

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They are the biggest scam in India capitalizing on FOMO of Indian parents. They charge heaftily (more than $2000) to teach app development (using Scratch, Firebase etc.). Their staff is poorly paid and just reads off scripts. Their staff doesn't know even the basics of CS (as evidenced in this video: https://youtu.be/1Y21eSn_zSM?t=64 , when the student asks how files are stored in Cloud Storage, she says the files ar…

Yeah I am from India. I think we could have guessed this is the ultimate stage of IIT JEE rat race that's getting more and more aggressive over some years. While I don't subscribe to all ideologies of socialism, I can only think of free high-quality education by government as a solution to this aggressive game-the-system and FOMO mentality so deep rooted here. For context I studied in Rural Governement schools till 1…

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post #241

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a major problem is that teachers are using these "crambooks" too when setting exam questions so basically you get a leg up when you study from them vs the official coursebooks. you'll literally see the same questions there so obv it's easier to study from that than from the coursebooks source: experienced this in my math classes in the CBSE board of education from india

a friend of my parents in Bombay changed his kid's school because not only did the teacher set homework and tests from the guidebooks, but would not accept any other answer than what the book supplied. original work was marked wrong.

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As in googlers are complicit??

yup, BYJU is getting CRAZY amounts of support in India and no major newspaper questions their claims. there are a lot of conspiracy theories about why it is so - some people say it is coz they have political support

Isn't Shah Rukh Khan an investor too in Byju's?

Edit: just a brand ambassador. He's still complicit in misleading millions of Indian kids.

Edit2: the techcrunch article shows a picture of Karan Bajaj (WhiteHatJr founder) with Baba Ramdev, so it's very possible that they have political backing.

I'll take the Chinese Baijiu over Byju's any day.

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Yeah I am from India. I think we could have guessed this is the ultimate stage of IIT JEE rat race that's getting more and more aggressive over some years. While I don't subscribe to all ideologies of socialism, I can only think of free high-quality education by government as a solution to this aggressive game-the-system and FOMO mentality so deep rooted here. For context I studied in Rural Governement schools till 1…

A lot of the stress associated with IIT JEE stems from aggressive fear based propaganda by coaching classes. Things were much more laid back in the 90s, pre-Kota mania. Fear sells. They make it sound as though if you are not in an IIT, your life will be a flaming wreck. This is far from the case, even if you confine yourself to the tech sector.

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Rarely am I the one to stand up for Google, but the DMCA is such a garbage law that they have no choice. They don't have the legal ability to call bullshit on the takedown. It's the video creator's job under the DMCA to prove themselves innocent, under penalty of perjury. (No such penalty exists for filing a false claim, BTW.)

>Rarely am I the one to stand up for Google, but the DMCA is such a garbage law that they have no choice. First of all, Youtube with their ContentID circus goes far beyond what the DMCA requires. The DMCA requires you take down content once you receive a proper notice with all the required elements. It does not mandate that you proactively scan all video and audio as ContentID does (but other jurisdictions may have s…

> If the subscriber serves a counter notification complying with statutory requirements, including a statement under penalty of perjury that the material was removed or disabled through mistake or misidentification...

http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf

Not sure what you're disagreeing with me on here, since you go on to restate my point at greater length. There are penalties for falsely filing a counternotice; there are no penalties to me if I send Alphabet a DMCA claim about Google.com (or if WhiteHatJr files notice to YouTube).

Edit: Ah, I see. It's correct that there is no need to provide evidence at the counter-notice stage, but it introduces a sentence of up to five years in prison just for lying in the counter-notice, which does not exist for the filer. Also, even if the everything is filed and processed in a matter of hours from notice to counter-notice, there is a 14-day period during which your material remains offline regardless.

I stand by my point. The DMCA is a garbage law.

Re: WhiteHat Jr’s founder files $2.6M defamation suit against critic

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yup, BYJU is getting CRAZY amounts of support in India and no major newspaper questions their claims. there are a lot of conspiracy theories about why it is so - some people say it is coz they have political support

Isn't Shah Rukh Khan an investor too in Byju's? Edit: just a brand ambassador. He's still complicit in misleading millions of Indian kids. Edit2: the techcrunch article shows a picture of Karan Bajaj (WhiteHatJr founder) with Baba Ramdev, so it's very possible that they have political backing. I'll take the Chinese Baijiu over Byju's any day.

Pretty sure that Shah Rukh Khan doesn't really understand it beyond "it's an emerging edtech"

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> she says the files are stored in real clouds I have fond memories of a visit to a children’s hostel in Hyderabad, India in 2006, and a rote answer they were taught in their textbooks: “Why is a computer called a number cruncher?” “A computer is called a number cruncher because it crunches numbers with its teeth.” Dad took the children to the office where there was a computer and showed them that it had no teeth. I’…

There are well designed, carefully planned and high quality textbooks by NCERT, which is part of the school board. But many students and parents don't prefer them. There is a proliferation of 'cut-to-the-chase' guidebooks (similar to Cliffnotes but much much worse) that they use to cram before the exam. What you describe is very likely one of these.

OT, so briefly: I'm interested in the possibility of applying much greater than usual domain expertise to create science education content which is more correct and insightful, focused on integrated transferable understanding. An unresolved challenge is how to make such available in a form and setting that actually gets it used. A quick check of the NCERT science textbooks turns up error and opportunity for improvement. So, is there some setting in which one might say "for NCERT class foo, book Science, chapter bar, here is a free correcting-and-extending supplement", and potentially see significant use? Tnx...
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