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The CIA's Quest for Mind Control: Torture, LSD and a 'Poisoner in Chief'
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Re: The CIA's Quest for Mind Control: Torture, LSD and a 'Poisoner in Chief'
#12The CIA should absolutely be abolished.
For sure the CIA has done a ton of crazy shit. They should be subject to oversight and accountability, but abolishing them won't accomplish much other than introducing a massive blindspot in national security.
The last group that tried to hold them to account had their computers hacked.[1]
It doesn't seem possible to hold the most powerful accountable to me.
[1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Intelligence_Committee_...)
Re: The CIA's Quest for Mind Control: Torture, LSD and a 'Poisoner in Chief'
#13"There are two powers in the world, the United States and the CIA."
Re: The CIA's Quest for Mind Control: Torture, LSD and a 'Poisoner in Chief'
#14The CIA should absolutely be abolished.
For sure the CIA has done a ton of crazy shit. They should be subject to oversight and accountability, but abolishing them won't accomplish much other than introducing a massive blindspot in national security.
That massive blind spot may be preferable to the problems their actions cause.
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#15The CIA should absolutely be abolished.
For sure the CIA has done a ton of crazy shit. They should be subject to oversight and accountability, but abolishing them won't accomplish much other than introducing a massive blindspot in national security.
That's like supporting a protection racket... Wow.
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#16Interestingly enough, Sidney Gottlieb was my great uncle's college roommate at the University of Wisconsin, and they later reconnected after the war and became lifelong best friends. Apparently they both went there after colleges on the east coast started putting quotas on Jews. There is an interesting article about their relationship here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/magazine/20...
Unfortunately I didn't find out until after my great uncle had died, would have been super interesting to ask him about.
Re: The CIA's Quest for Mind Control: Torture, LSD and a 'Poisoner in Chief'
#17The CIA should absolutely be abolished.
So you wanna live in the world where only Russians and Saudis do extrajudicial killings?
Re: The CIA's Quest for Mind Control: Torture, LSD and a 'Poisoner in Chief'
#18The CIA should absolutely be abolished.
For sure the CIA has done a ton of crazy shit. They should be subject to oversight and accountability, but abolishing them won't accomplish much other than introducing a massive blindspot in national security.
The US has plenty of other intelligence agencies.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
For sure the CIA has done a ton of crazy shit. They should be subject to oversight and accountability, but abolishing them won't accomplish much other than introducing a massive blindspot in national security.
That massive blind spot may be preferable to the problems their actions cause.
Preferable in what way? Clearly the CIA has sinned and will likely continue to do so, but how can we evaluate an agency whose job by definition is either totally unseen (Espionage) or only reported on years after the fact (i.e. no one cares about the terrorist attacks that don't happen)