Hope more and more people in and outside India become aware of this scam.
WhiteHat Jr’s founder files $2.6M defamation suit against critic
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#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Europeans will be upset. To an extent, they are. But most of the conversation here seems to be about refugees and asylum seekers rather than legal immigrants. It helps that I'm more than willing to adopt the European way of life: fashion, food, work-life balance and all the rest of it. As to your first point, that was the crux of my post. I no longer care (nor am offended by, mind you!) whether you judge me or not.…
> And I know how much more at peace I am in France. I am a better human because of it; kinder, more useful to society etc. At the risk of judging you, are you sure you are kinder ? You just wrote a paragraph about “the typical Indian” in a fairly condescending tone and how you get upset over trivial things like “Indian English” phrases. It’s okay to not like the Indian lifestyle, not everyone has to, even if you are…
Haha, fair enough, you mentioned it twice now, so I concede that I might be kinder, but I'm still not kind per se! I suppose I was burnt by a youth spent yearning to escape and hence the reactions. I promise I'm pretty harmless in real life :)
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#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s used by nearly everyone, not just babus. The memes in fact originate from engineers in India interacting with their international colleagues. In any case, it’s not something worth getting upset about.
You're missing the forest for the trees. Like I said, it's not about the phrases themselves; then again, perhaps we are talking past each other. I'll just say that your notion of what is worth getting upset about (or not) _might not_ apply to everybody else, and leave it at that :)
I don’t think I’m missing the point, which is those phrases are used widely enough that they don’t signify babudom. It’s common workplace English and has no wider context than “it’s just Indian English”, not in this day at least.
Fair enough that what is worth getting upset about for me doesn’t apply to others.
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#164I have had my personal stint with trying to "expose" an Indian startup (I am an Indian), also coding related which gained some traction on LinkedIn (around 500+ reactions, if they mean anything). This guy is in serious danger, trust me. I had to delete my linkedin post when my ex-manager called me to delete it otherwise the startup's employees will go crazy and try every which way to make my life hell. Unfortunately,…
I'm an Indian abroad. Do it. Come here to Europe. The baseline level of self-awareness in people here is off the scale when you compare it to the typical Indian. People actually queue, instead of creating a melee at every counter. You're never worrying about people cutting you in lines. Cars stop at zebra crossings to let pedestrians cross. No one honks! They nod and smile "bonjour!" as they cross you on the street.…
I am an Indian and lived in Europe and now living in the US.
They are both good places for many reasons but don't be fooled. There is still corruption (different quality and distribution).
Examples:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirecard_scandal#Aggressive_at...
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2018/06/0...
Humans are same irrespective of culture. Surface level features and behavior are different but thats it.
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#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
> And I know how much more at peace I am in France. I am a better human because of it; kinder, more useful to society etc. At the risk of judging you, are you sure you are kinder ? You just wrote a paragraph about “the typical Indian” in a fairly condescending tone and how you get upset over trivial things like “Indian English” phrases. It’s okay to not like the Indian lifestyle, not everyone has to, even if you are…
Haha, fair enough, you mentioned it twice now, so I concede that I might be kinder, but I'm still not kind per se! I suppose I was burnt by a youth spent yearning to escape and hence the reactions. I promise I'm pretty harmless in real life :)
Again, I hear you and relate to a lot of things you said. As I get older though, those things seem trivial and I’ve learnt not to idolize one culture/lifestyle over others. You realize that’s just the way people are in that part of the world and it’s not due to malice.
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#166Pathetic. All this dude did was show users their fake ads and fake reviews. He's also showcased reviews where the instructors don't seem to know much about how the internet works. Now the legal system is being used to maliciously prosecute him. There is little hope for this man in India given the level of corruption and rot in the system. If there are well connected folks in the west who want to spend their time on a…
Rarely am I the one to stand up for Google, but the DMCA is such a garbage law that they have no choice. They don't have the legal ability to call bullshit on the takedown. It's the video creator's job under the DMCA to prove themselves innocent, under penalty of perjury. (No such penalty exists for filing a false claim, BTW.)
My understanding is that once the content creator file a counter notice, the hosting platform is off the hook and free to reinstate the content. Any further legal fight will be directly between the claimant and the creator, not involving the host at all. IANAL, so feel free to point out any mistakes in this take.
Now assuming the above to be true, YouTube has rejected a counter notice by the creator. What other reason exists for such a decision, than the commercial relationship between the two companies? This shows that content creators have no priority at all. The host is likely a willing partner in this abuse.
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#167Their videos got removed from LBRY as well: https://old.reddit.com/r/india/comments/jsuows/all_my_videos...
I had no surprise when I heard youtube suspended him. But I'm very dissapointed that a platform like LBRY, marketing itself as a censorship-resistant youtube alternative(https://lbry.com/faq/censorship-resistance) deleted a whole bunch of videos which were clearly fair use and for public good.
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#168Their videos got removed from LBRY as well: https://old.reddit.com/r/india/comments/jsuows/all_my_videos... I had no surprise when I heard youtube suspended him. But I'm very dissapointed that a platform like LBRY, marketing itself as a censorship-resistant youtube alternative( https://lbry.com/faq/censorship-resistance ) deleted a whole bunch of videos which were clearly fair use and for public good.
I still can't figure out how they got lbry to remove the videos.
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#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm an Indian abroad. Do it. Come here to Europe. The baseline level of self-awareness in people here is off the scale when you compare it to the typical Indian. People actually queue, instead of creating a melee at every counter. You're never worrying about people cutting you in lines. Cars stop at zebra crossings to let pedestrians cross. No one honks! They nod and smile "bonjour!" as they cross you on the street.…
I'm a native-born Canadian, married to a woman who was born in Bangladesh. I'm blown away by how much this list reads like an exact point-for-point description of why she moved here. (Except for the part about the $5 wine.)
It is biting, but very true.
You'd be surprised to experience firsthand how low values like integrity, ownership and shame rank for an overwhelming majority of people. The general rule of thumb is "get by, somehow, anyhow". Another trait is having little to no perspective on what a higher quality of life entails. It is awful, and depressing.
A handful of people who are hurt and frustrated by this, share the same sentiment as the parent comment.
Re: WhiteHat Jr’s founder files $2.6M defamation suit against critic
#170I have had my personal stint with trying to "expose" an Indian startup (I am an Indian), also coding related which gained some traction on LinkedIn (around 500+ reactions, if they mean anything). This guy is in serious danger, trust me. I had to delete my linkedin post when my ex-manager called me to delete it otherwise the startup's employees will go crazy and try every which way to make my life hell. Unfortunately,…
Good on you for trying. FWIW a general rule of thumb that I've discovered is that it's more worthwhile to listen to the doers than the talkers. And certainly don't be misled by the guys who tell you to sacrifice for the common good when they will not.
There is no racial tie to any place. As an Indian you have no more of a responsibility to improve India than you do France. You didn't choose that, you were just born there. That's like me mowing your lawn and then asking you to pay me whatever fee I came up with. India birthed you. But India did not first ask.
And whether the Europeans like you there or not is also irrelevant. You are a free agent. It's probably smart to be liked and to be useful but beyond that residence there is not a gift, it's a value exchange. No one would do that if they didn't get something from it (in aggregate).
Look out for yourself. Everything else will naturally come from that.