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WhiteHat Jr’s founder files $2.6M defamation suit against critic

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Most advanced rich nations are like that (and FYI and you've just described why they are rich.)

I could never tease apart the correlation vs. causation. Is it the culture that drives progress or is it progress that drives a civil culture?

IMO, it is the population and resource density that makes the difference in human behavior. I have seen densely populated, resource stretched cities in the west that will put an Indian city to shame in bad road traffic behavior.

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I'm an Indian abroad. Do it. Come here to Europe. The baseline level of self-awareness in people here is off the scale when you compare it to the typical Indian. People actually queue, instead of creating a melee at every counter. You're never worrying about people cutting you in lines. Cars stop at zebra crossings to let pedestrians cross. No one honks! They nod and smile "bonjour!" as they cross you on the street.…

I am sure it will be hard for India to come up to that level if people just keep leaving for greener pastures. Europe didn’t get to be Europe by doing that. Of course it’s your choice to leave, I don’t know it somehow smells bad to my value system, but that’s just my problem. If enough people keep landing in Europe like this, I am pretty sure sooner or later, Europeans will be upset. It’s inevitable and human nature.…

Laudable sentiments indeed. Could you also expound a little on _how_ exactly you expect the parent(s) to "fix their own place"?

Not everyone has to be a revolutionary. It is indeed human to tire of the fight, and equally human to want to live life without having to fight all the way.

It is easy indeed to judge everybody else on the basis of (y)our value system; it is harder to walk a few steps in the other person's shoes.

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This seems like the most complete/current report on the topic: https://inc42.com/buzz/whitehat-jrs-ceo-files-2-6-mn-defamat... Anyone know of anything better?

> WhiteHat Jr’s advertisements concerning an imaginary child “Wolf Gupta”, a teen who landed a job in Google

Lawyers of HN, does this not backfire in legal settings for false advertising? They are literally accepting lying

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It's not the phrases themselves, it's (almost always) the context they are used in. They signify babudom at its worst.

It’s used by nearly everyone, not just babus. The memes in fact originate from engineers in India interacting with their international colleagues. In any case, it’s not something worth getting upset about.

It is if they are used abusively and sarcastically regularly.

Re: WhiteHat Jr’s founder files $2.6M defamation suit against critic

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I could never tease apart the correlation vs. causation. Is it the culture that drives progress or is it progress that drives a civil culture?

IMO, it is the population and resource density that makes the difference in human behavior. I have seen densely populated, resource stretched cities in the west that will put an Indian city to shame in bad road traffic behavior.

I have to agree with the assertion. The political will to change anything decreases with the number of people in the area. It's hard to break compatibility between versions when you have a language used by almost everyone (javascript) vs when you are a new hippie lang.

China seems to be the only exception here with PRC having draconian control over everything.

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post #121

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Most advanced rich nations are like that (and FYI and you've just described why they are rich.)

I could never tease apart the correlation vs. causation. Is it the culture that drives progress or is it progress that drives a civil culture?

I've lived in a poor country and also in a few of the wealthiest nations on Earth.

IMHO first you become rich, then once you have time in your hands to actually think about improving things, you do just that.

Becoming rich in a corruption-ridden country, however, tends to be next to impossible for the few honest people living in such place... so it's really difficult for enough honest people to become wealthy enough to start pushing for change to improve not only their own lives, but also that of those who are less privileged.

If you do manage to push beyond such threshold, however, I believe most people will start benefitting from the generosity of their fellow citizens, and slowly start to behave accordingly, i.e. politely and honestly and just kindly. Once you get there, it seems this new level of kindness in society tends to self-sustain, and that's when you know a country has become part of the "first world".

It's rare, though... I believe the latest example is South Korea, which has become a very advanced nation in just a few decades... wish there were other examples, but I'm not aware of any others besides perhaps China - but China does not exactly have a population and government I would decribe as "kind" :/ but I think they will get there eventually.

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I am sure it will be hard for India to come up to that level if people just keep leaving for greener pastures. Europe didn’t get to be Europe by doing that. Of course it’s your choice to leave, I don’t know it somehow smells bad to my value system, but that’s just my problem. If enough people keep landing in Europe like this, I am pretty sure sooner or later, Europeans will be upset. It’s inevitable and human nature.…

"Europe didn’t get to be Europe by doing that..." No, because all the troublemakers left to the US! I kid. I kid .

There’s an element of truth to this: in the 19th century a substantial number of Irish republicans found refuge in the US – enough to invade Canada! [1]

In the case of Australia, the trouble-makers were sent there against their will.

[1] https://guides.loc.gov/chronicling-america-fenian-invasions-...

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Hey Poonia, I do hope that you start a fund and hire the best lawyer(s) possible. Will contribute what i can, and again after a few months if it drags on. good luck. am sure many others here will too

He posted on r/India a while back. Many have offered to contribute & help out.

https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/jyt7et/whitehatjr_fi...

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I understand. That’s isomorphic with accusing Google of employing a 9-year-old, which might suggest a path to investigate with the aim of getting Google to issue an admittance or a categorical denial of this outlandish claim.

I am a fan of this approach. One should get Google involved, they would probably make very clear that it's all made-up.

Yup, that sounds solid?

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Current title on HN: Indian Startup WhiteHatJr files suit against reviewer exposing fake ads Title on article: WhiteHat Jr and the curious case of disappearing dissent Actual subject matter: an entity abusing YouTube’s copyright systems to suppress negative comments on their advertisements (giving examples of one case of fun mockery and one finding inconsistencies in allegations made by the ads), and YouTube handling…

That's because this news is as fresh as it gets. The details of the suit were just released a few hours ago, and for the sake of international media recognition OP selected the most prominent article with a title reflecting the current scenario. I've been following this saga for a while, it's all on Reddit. Here's a summary, the guy started off by creating a YT channel a few months back called "WhitehatSr" where he d…

Thanks for summing it up. They date not touch him, or they’ll be hell to pay. I remember the anger I felt when Satyendra case happened. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyendra_Dubey
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