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Post by [deleted] »

sn41 wrote: post #105
higerordermap wrote: post #97

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Yeah I am from India. I think we could have guessed this is the ultimate stage of IIT JEE rat race that's getting more and more aggressive over some years. While I don't subscribe to all ideologies of socialism, I can only think of free high-quality education by government as a solution to this aggressive game-the-system and FOMO mentality so deep rooted here. For context I studied in Rural Governement schools till 1…

A lot of the stress associated with IIT JEE stems from aggressive fear based propaganda by coaching classes. Things were much more laid back in the 90s, pre-Kota mania. Fear sells. They make it sound as though if you are not in an IIT, your life will be a flaming wreck. This is far from the case, even if you confine yourself to the tech sector.

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Post by mealkh »

sokoloff wrote: post #38
villgax wrote: post #32

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They made it out to make believe that kid got a job at google, somehow.

I understand. That’s isomorphic with accusing Google of employing a 9-year-old, which might suggest a path to investigate with the aim of getting Google to issue an admittance or a categorical denial of this outlandish claim.

I am a fan of this approach. One should get Google involved, they would probably make very clear that it's all made-up.

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Post by rendall »

eklavya wrote: post #125
helmholtz wrote: post #102

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I'm an Indian abroad. Do it. Come here to Europe. The baseline level of self-awareness in people here is off the scale when you compare it to the typical Indian. People actually queue, instead of creating a melee at every counter. You're never worrying about people cutting you in lines. Cars stop at zebra crossings to let pedestrians cross. No one honks! They nod and smile "bonjour!" as they cross you on the street.…

I am sure it will be hard for India to come up to that level if people just keep leaving for greener pastures. Europe didn’t get to be Europe by doing that. Of course it’s your choice to leave, I don’t know it somehow smells bad to my value system, but that’s just my problem. If enough people keep landing in Europe like this, I am pretty sure sooner or later, Europeans will be upset. It’s inevitable and human nature.…

"Europe didn’t get to be Europe by doing that..."

No, because all the troublemakers left to the US!

I kid. I kid.

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Post by gadnuk »

ghoomketu wrote: post #88

This is nothing new. Another scammer called Ankit Fadia has been doing very similar stuff under the name of "Ethical hacking courses" for many many years now. He has been exposed many times (see his Wikipedia page) but most parents and students don't know much about the person running the business and fall for stupid ploys like "Employed by FBI to hack Osama" or some paid TV apperance and end up paying thousands of d…

Thanks for mentioning this fraudster. That dude legit conned everybody at the time because Internet was fairly new to India. Here's one of my favorite pages on the internet exposing the charlatan that he is:

http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/ankit_fadia/

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Post by helmholtz »

eklavya wrote: post #125
helmholtz wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm an Indian abroad. Do it. Come here to Europe. The baseline level of self-awareness in people here is off the scale when you compare it to the typical Indian. People actually queue, instead of creating a melee at every counter. You're never worrying about people cutting you in lines. Cars stop at zebra crossings to let pedestrians cross. No one honks! They nod and smile "bonjour!" as they cross you on the street.…

I am sure it will be hard for India to come up to that level if people just keep leaving for greener pastures. Europe didn’t get to be Europe by doing that. Of course it’s your choice to leave, I don’t know it somehow smells bad to my value system, but that’s just my problem. If enough people keep landing in Europe like this, I am pretty sure sooner or later, Europeans will be upset. It’s inevitable and human nature.…

> Europeans will be upset.

To an extent, they are. But most of the conversation here seems to be about refugees and asylum seekers rather than legal immigrants. It helps that I'm more than willing to adopt the European way of life: fashion, food, work-life balance and all the rest of it.

As to your first point, that was the crux of my post. I no longer care (nor am offended by, mind you!) whether you judge me or not. I know how much vitriol coursed through my veins every day I was in Chennai, Bangalore, Delhi etc. And I know how much more at peace I am in France. I am a better human because of it; kinder, more useful to society etc. I would not trade any of it for more abstract notions of whether Europeans as a whole will be upset by the wider trends.

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Post by ra7 »

mangamadaiyan wrote: post #128
ra7 wrote: post #112

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> You'll never hear the words "do the needful" or "prepone" or, my most hated "kindly revert back"! I hear your complaints. But does this really deserve a mention as a reason not to live in India? Are you really this upset over a few phrases that has no material impact on your life? Seems a bit pretentious.

It's not the phrases themselves, it's (almost always) the context they are used in. They signify babudom at its worst.

It’s used by nearly everyone, not just babus. The memes in fact originate from engineers in India interacting with their international colleagues. In any case, it’s not something worth getting upset about.

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Post by linuxlizard »

rendall wrote: post #133
eklavya wrote: post #125

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I am sure it will be hard for India to come up to that level if people just keep leaving for greener pastures. Europe didn’t get to be Europe by doing that. Of course it’s your choice to leave, I don’t know it somehow smells bad to my value system, but that’s just my problem. If enough people keep landing in Europe like this, I am pretty sure sooner or later, Europeans will be upset. It’s inevitable and human nature.…

"Europe didn’t get to be Europe by doing that..." No, because all the troublemakers left to the US! I kid. I kid .

(American here.) No, no. You have a point.

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Post by edouard-harris »

helmholtz wrote: post #102
pulkitsh1234 wrote: post #59

I have had my personal stint with trying to "expose" an Indian startup (I am an Indian), also coding related which gained some traction on LinkedIn (around 500+ reactions, if they mean anything). This guy is in serious danger, trust me. I had to delete my linkedin post when my ex-manager called me to delete it otherwise the startup's employees will go crazy and try every which way to make my life hell. Unfortunately,…

I'm an Indian abroad. Do it. Come here to Europe. The baseline level of self-awareness in people here is off the scale when you compare it to the typical Indian. People actually queue, instead of creating a melee at every counter. You're never worrying about people cutting you in lines. Cars stop at zebra crossings to let pedestrians cross. No one honks! They nod and smile "bonjour!" as they cross you on the street.…

I'm a native-born Canadian, married to a woman who was born in Bangladesh. I'm blown away by how much this list reads like an exact point-for-point description of why she moved here. (Except for the part about the $5 wine.)

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Post by BonnieBrown »

helmholtz wrote: post #102
pulkitsh1234 wrote: post #59

I have had my personal stint with trying to "expose" an Indian startup (I am an Indian), also coding related which gained some traction on LinkedIn (around 500+ reactions, if they mean anything). This guy is in serious danger, trust me. I had to delete my linkedin post when my ex-manager called me to delete it otherwise the startup's employees will go crazy and try every which way to make my life hell. Unfortunately,…

I'm an Indian abroad. Do it. Come here to Europe. The baseline level of self-awareness in people here is off the scale when you compare it to the typical Indian. People actually queue, instead of creating a melee at every counter. You're never worrying about people cutting you in lines. Cars stop at zebra crossings to let pedestrians cross. No one honks! They nod and smile "bonjour!" as they cross you on the street.…

I am an American in California working as a Project Manager at a small ~30 person eCommerce "engine" startup. One of my new colleagues on the PM team is a very nice Indian girl and she always says "do the needful" in JIRA tickets and in general email communication. Before she joined the team about 2 months ago I never once in my life heard anyone in America say "do the needful". I am American and have lived here my entire life. I always thought the saying was slightly funny and almost "cute" in that no native American English speaker ever describes tasks to be done as being "needful".

Where did that saying come from in India?

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Post by brabel »

rendall wrote: post #133
eklavya wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am sure it will be hard for India to come up to that level if people just keep leaving for greener pastures. Europe didn’t get to be Europe by doing that. Of course it’s your choice to leave, I don’t know it somehow smells bad to my value system, but that’s just my problem. If enough people keep landing in Europe like this, I am pretty sure sooner or later, Europeans will be upset. It’s inevitable and human nature.…

"Europe didn’t get to be Europe by doing that..." No, because all the troublemakers left to the US! I kid. I kid .

England got rid of all sorts of troublemakers by sending then down to Australia for a long time :D

Somehow, it actually turned out great for both.

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