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Re: Deep Frozen Arctic Microbes Are Waking Up

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Post by Barrin92 » Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 7:19 PM UTC

irrational wrote: post #20

ggambetta wrote: post #6

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One of the lessons that I've learned from this pandemic is that despite overwhelming evidence and over a million deaths, there's a non-trivial amount of people who still believe it's not real, or who refuse to wear a mask, or who protest against the few, mild, reasonable measures we can take to get through this alive. So if anything, my faith in humankind has gone down :(

The fact that people can be literally dying from COVID in a hospital yet still deny its existence has almost totally destroyed any faith I have in humanity.

good friend of mine is a nurse. She has seen people in the ER with Covid deny that it exists too. There's people currently on oxygen who go "nah that doesn't exist I don't have it, the media made that up". So yeah

Re: Deep Frozen Arctic Microbes Are Waking Up

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Post by samiru » Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 7:25 PM UTC

ggambetta wrote: post #6

randycupertino wrote: post #4

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Perhaps we'll do better for the "next" pandemic now that we have the infrastructure in place and learned some lessons from COVID? Maybe I'm grasping for silver linings and being too optimistic towards humanity...

One of the lessons that I've learned from this pandemic is that despite overwhelming evidence and over a million deaths, there's a non-trivial amount of people who still believe it's not real, or who refuse to wear a mask, or who protest against the few, mild, reasonable measures we can take to get through this alive. So if anything, my faith in humankind has gone down :(

Well, a crisis situation (be it real or manufactured) is a perfect vehicle for driving all kinds of agendas. It is natural there is some opposition.

Re: Deep Frozen Arctic Microbes Are Waking Up

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Post by ethbr0 » Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 7:28 PM UTC

Barrin92 wrote: post #31

irrational wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that people can be literally dying from COVID in a hospital yet still deny its existence has almost totally destroyed any faith I have in humanity.

good friend of mine is a nurse. She has seen people in the ER with Covid deny that it exists too. There's people currently on oxygen who go "nah that doesn't exist I don't have it, the media made that up". So yeah

Thankfully, life has a way of selecting against people who fail to act to preserve their own.

(Said as someone whose fiance is an ICU nurse)

Re: Deep Frozen Arctic Microbes Are Waking Up

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Post by nosmokewhereiam » Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 7:30 PM UTC

"Mycoremediation is the bioremediation technique which employ fungi in the removal of toxic compounds; it could be carried out in the presence of both filamentous fungi (moulds) and macrofungi (mushrooms). Both classes possess enzymes for the degradation of a large variety of pollutants"

Maybe Paul Stammets, Michael Pollan, and the entire next generation of mycology experts can find a way to sporolate these areas in an effective way. Even if it just encapsulates and doesn't eliminate, it's still something.

Re: Deep Frozen Arctic Microbes Are Waking Up

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Post by ethbr0 » Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 7:31 PM UTC

bearburger wrote: post #25

franklampard wrote: post #7

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only in the U.S.

Unfortunately I see these peoples around in Russia. My estimation of anti-maskers is about 10-15% of population here. Mostly 35-55 males who thinks that wearing a mask is the sign of weakness and/or keeps saying that COVID is "just a flu" and those who died would have been dead anyway in 2-3 month if not from COVID then from something like common cold. Even recent death of 28 y/o school teacher and 23 y/o political a…

SARS-CoV-2 is pretty perfectly calibrated to hide in people's inability to comprehend statistics and probability.

High transmission rate + (relatively) low complication / death rate = ideal conspiracy fodder

Re: Deep Frozen Arctic Microbes Are Waking Up

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Post by shishy » Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 7:34 PM UTC

f_o_m wrote: post #30

The sci-fi novel "Mind Painter" explores this in depth - good, scary stuff!

Hi,

Where can I find this book? Is it this one (coming out next month)? https://reedsy.com/discovery/book/mind-painter-tom-b-night/u...

Thanks.

Re: Deep Frozen Arctic Microbes Are Waking Up

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Post by saiya-jin » Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 7:41 PM UTC

x87678r wrote: post #22

ggambetta wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the lessons that I've learned from this pandemic is that despite overwhelming evidence and over a million deaths, there's a non-trivial amount of people who still believe it's not real, or who refuse to wear a mask, or who protest against the few, mild, reasonable measures we can take to get through this alive. So if anything, my faith in humankind has gone down :(

Elon Musk is one person who is one person who thinks the restrictions are too strict. So maybe it is sensible for younger people to keep working and living near to normal.

Musk is a brilliant guy in many things, but psychotic weirdo in many others. Glad we have him, but no way he should be a model role to young folks who often can't cherry-pick the good aspects of character from flawed and dangerous ones, and rather think in absolutes.

Re: Deep Frozen Arctic Microbes Are Waking Up

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Post by rdiddly » Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 7:41 PM UTC

netsharc wrote: post #13

ggambetta wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the lessons that I've learned from this pandemic is that despite overwhelming evidence and over a million deaths, there's a non-trivial amount of people who still believe it's not real, or who refuse to wear a mask, or who protest against the few, mild, reasonable measures we can take to get through this alive. So if anything, my faith in humankind has gone down :(

Fefe (a prominent German Internet commentator) posted a user's email yesterday which shows 3 perspectives I really haven't given much thought to. The Google translation is pretty good, one big mistake though, it mistranslated "Asi-Kindern" as "Asian children" instead of "asocial kids": https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%... . And Case 1 is someone who builds booths for conventions. A lot of p…

That sounds more like the anger phase. Or maybe bargaining, ha!

Re: Deep Frozen Arctic Microbes Are Waking Up

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Post by knowaveragejoe » Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 7:42 PM UTC

samiru wrote: post #29

irrational wrote: post #19

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Isn’t it already happening? Is that what is creating the huge methane explosions and craters in Siberia?

Yes. Check the Yamal Peninsula in Google Maps and you realize this kind of cratering is a process that has been going on for thousands of years (since the ice age really!).

The scary part is that it's accelerating in on a timescale that's relevant to our needs as a species.

Re: Deep Frozen Arctic Microbes Are Waking Up

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Post by knowaveragejoe » Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 7:43 PM UTC

ggambetta wrote: post #6

randycupertino wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps we'll do better for the "next" pandemic now that we have the infrastructure in place and learned some lessons from COVID? Maybe I'm grasping for silver linings and being too optimistic towards humanity...

One of the lessons that I've learned from this pandemic is that despite overwhelming evidence and over a million deaths, there's a non-trivial amount of people who still believe it's not real, or who refuse to wear a mask, or who protest against the few, mild, reasonable measures we can take to get through this alive. So if anything, my faith in humankind has gone down :(

Conspiracy culture is a huge problem in modern society that I fear we won't be able to solve